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Old 01-22-2010, 06:46 PM   #1
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Default Rye wine partigyle

I'm in the mood to do something a little wierd. I'm doing a rye-heavy barleywine/saison partigyle.
63% 17.75 lbs 2 row
32% 9 lbs Rye Malt
5% 1.25 lbs Crystal 20 (Any thoughts on the need for crystal? The rye malt I will be using is 4L)
Bittered to ~60 IBU with american goldings.
I'll throw some rice hulls in the mash tun and I'll also probably throw a lb of demerera sugar into the boil.
The mash schedule will be modeled after Bobby M's barleywine, found here:
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f74/her-...awards-123451/
I'll pitch onto a cake of US-05.

Should I cap the mash with something for the small beer (ry-heavy saison, bittered with hallertauer or saaz)? I was thinking perhaps a pound of special b.

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Old 01-22-2010, 08:39 PM   #2
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I would highly recommend a beta glucan rest. Without one, you may end up with syrup. The mouth feel will be so big as to be difficult to drink.

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cool, I'll let you guys know how it turns out then.

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Thats alot of malt. I'm curious about your mashing and sparging schedule.

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Thats alot of malt. I'm curious about your mashing and sparging schedule.
nm, I missed your link to Bobby M's recipe.
According to my spreadsheet, a pound of specialty malt will get your small beer ~1.050 with a color of ~18 srm.
Special B sounds good, though that seems alot of it with the C120 in a small beer.
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Old 01-24-2010, 09:38 PM   #6
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I capped the mash with a half pound of special b and a quarter pound of carafa II.
The first runnings went well, got about 5.5 gallons of 1.116 after adding 1.5 lbs of demerera to the boil. Pitched it a cake of US-05, and it was blowing off in less than 2 hours. Solid, crazy, violent fermentation.
Small beer came out kind of ****ty. The mash stuck like a son of a bitch. After about 45 minutes of stirring, I had only gotten about 3.5 gallons of 1.050sh out before the braid in my MLT tore and the mash just completely stuck up. It was almost midnight at this point, so I just topped the kettle off to 6 gallons, added a pound and a half of sage honey and started the boil. Got 5 gallons of 1.038, first-wort (second wort?) hopped with 2oz perle. Pitched WL565 at 1:20am, no starter. Krausen by morning. May add some DME to the fermentor in a few days, depending on how I feel.

Long, long day. My advice is to think long and hard about starting a partigyle after lunchtime. Set your alarm and start the strike water at 6am.
Also, making a barleywine-strength beer with a 6.25 gallon brew kettle is a pain in the ass like nothing I've experienced, and a flat out impossibility without foam control drops. My girlfriend manned the stove inside, with 2/3 of a gallon on each burner for about 45 minutes to an hour.

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I capped the mash with a half pound of special b and a quarter pound of carafa II.
The first runnings went well, got about 5.5 gallons of 1.116 after adding 1.5 lbs of demerera to the boil. Pitched it a cake of US-05, and it was blowing off in less than 2 hours. Solid, crazy, violent fermentation.
What temperature was the wort when you racked onto the yeast cake?
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A little under 80F. The carboy was put immediately into a bath of sub 50F tap water.

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Might want to dry hop that with some aspirin

Fusel alcohol levels will be high

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Thanks for the snide remark. Thermometer read 65 when it was blowing off. I'm not worried.

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