Ss Brewing Technologies Giveaway!

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Recipes/Ingredients > Rosemary Mint IIPA?
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 07-11-2013, 06:21 PM   #1
peterj
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
peterj's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Smyrna, GA
Posts: 1,288
Liked 161 Times on 137 Posts
Likes Given: 91

Default Rosemary Mint IIPA?

Now before anyone verbally derides me or throws up in their mouth or anything, just hear me out!

So I have a huge rosemary plant growing in my front garden and I love the taste and smell of it. I was thinking the other day that I also like a nice piney hop presence in IPAs. Naturally I came up with an idea for a rosemary IPA. So I made up a little rosemary tea and added it to a hoppy pale ale I brewed to see how it would be. It was pretty good, but I think it added a little bit of an herbal astringency and savory taste to it and made it feel a little too dry. I wanted to add something to sweeten it up a little and maybe reduce the savory aspect of it.

So also growing in my garden right next to the rosemary is a couple huge mint plants. I'm thinking that a small hint of mint might give it a little bit of a sweeter aspect that could be good. I'm also thinking of using crystal and honey malt and mashing around 156 to keep it on the sweeter side with more body to hopefully balance the dry piney perfumeyness of the rosemary. I also decided it might be better to bring it up to the lower end of IIPA range.

I'm thinking some nice fruity hops would strike a good balance with the pineyness of the rosemary so I'm thinking of using Citra and Amarillo.

Anyway, here is a tentative recipe I've come up with. I'm planning on this being a half batch because I realize that it could go horribly wrong and be disgusting. Any thoughts or insights into the recipe or brewing with rosemary or mint would be appreciated. I've never used either in a beer before. I'm open to all comments, suggestions, and mockeries.

Brew Method: All Grain
Style Name: Imperial IPA
Boil Time: 60 min
Batch Size: 3 gallons (ending kettle volume)
Boil Size: 5 gallons
Efficiency: 77.5% (ending kettle)

STATS:
Original Gravity: 1.080
Final Gravity: 1.019
ABV (standard): 8.07%
IBU (rager): 70.88
SRM (morey): 11.79

FERMENTABLES:
6.75 lb - United Kingdom - Maris Otter Pale (81.8%)
0.75 lb - Belgian - Munich (9.1%)
0.25 lb - American - Caramel / Crystal 20L (3%)
0.25 lb - American - Caramel / Crystal 80L (3%)
0.25 lb - Canadian - Honey Malt (3%)

HOPS:
0.25 oz - Magnum for 60 min, Type: Pellet, Use: Boil (AA 15, IBU: 28.85)
0.5 oz - Amarillo for 20 min, Type: Pellet, Use: Boil (AA 8.6, IBU: 11.25)
0.5 oz - Citra for 20 min, Type: Pellet, Use: Boil (AA 11, IBU: 14.38)
0.5 oz - Amarillo for 10 min, Type: Pellet, Use: Boil (AA 8.6, IBU: 7.19)
0.5 oz - Citra for 10 min, Type: Pellet, Use: Boil (AA 11, IBU: 9.2)
0.5 oz - Amarillo for 0 min, Type: Pellet, Use: Boil (AA 8.6)
0.5 oz - Citra for 0 min, Type: Pellet, Use: Boil (AA 11)
0.5 oz - Amarillo for 7 days, Type: Pellet, Use: Dry Hop (AA 8.6)
0.5 oz - Citra for 7 days, Type: Pellet, Use: Dry Hop (AA 11)

MASH STEPS:
1) Temp: 156 F, Time: 60 min

OTHER INGREDIENTS:
0.5 each - Whirlfloc, Time: 15 min, Type: Fining, Use: Boil
1 each - Rosemary (~5 inch sprig), Time: 0 min, Type: Herb, Use: Boil
1 each - Mint (~5 inch sprig), Time: 0 min, Type: Herb, Use: Boil

YEAST:
White Labs - California Ale Yeast WLP001
Starter: No
Form: Liquid
Attenuation (avg): 76.5%

__________________
peterj is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-11-2013, 06:29 PM   #2
seanppp
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 237
Liked 8 Times on 8 Posts
Likes Given: 2

Default

Brew it! I have to say I don't imagine it tasting great, but the wonderful thing about homebrewing is experimenting. I'm 100% behind the idea and I hope you prove me wrong and make a great beer!

__________________
seanppp is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-12-2013, 09:35 PM   #3
peterj
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
peterj's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Smyrna, GA
Posts: 1,288
Liked 161 Times on 137 Posts
Likes Given: 91

Default

Thanks for the encouragement! Yeah, I'm not convinced it will be great either, but I figured it was worth a shot. I'm thinking about reducing the hops a little so they don't compete with the herbs too much. Maybe make it more of a lower gravity barleywine.

__________________
peterj is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-12-2013, 09:44 PM   #4
cheezydemon3
Registered User
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: louisville
Posts: 12,967
Liked 1641 Times on 1234 Posts
Likes Given: 3007

Default

Mint will not "Sweeten".

I say DON'T brew it. Just looking out for you.

Leave out the mint and add another lb of crystal 60

__________________
cheezydemon3 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-12-2013, 09:49 PM   #5
BobbiLynn
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,951
Liked 791 Times on 539 Posts
Likes Given: 389

Default

Barley and other fermentable grains go great with herbs, you don't even need hops at all. Beer with herbs and no hops is known as Gruit. I made an oregano beer that was so good but so bitter until it aged a while. Next time I'm thinking a little basil to soften up the bitterness.

Just for the heck of it, I just went out to my garden, pinched off a little rosemary then went over to my various mint plants and tasted them together. The taste is very nice and distinct. You can't really go wrong with grain and fresh herbs.

__________________
BobbiLynn is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-12-2013, 09:51 PM   #6
BobbiLynn
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,951
Liked 791 Times on 539 Posts
Likes Given: 389

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cheezydemon3 View Post
Mint will not "Sweeten".

I say DON'T brew it. Just looking out for you.

Leave out the mint and add another lb of crystal 60
Mints like apple mint and chocolate mint have a perceived sweetness to them. Not really sweet, but reminds you of sweet.
__________________
BobbiLynn is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-12-2013, 09:51 PM   #7
LabRatBrewer
Lost in a Maze
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
LabRatBrewer's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Laguna Niguel, CA
Posts: 2,447
Liked 806 Times on 559 Posts
Likes Given: 1326

Default

I did a one gallon rosemary ipa. It had to age quite awhile for the rosemary to fade to a drinkable level.

__________________
LabRatBrewer is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-12-2013, 10:03 PM   #8
tflew
Feedback Score: 3 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 254
Liked 10 Times on 8 Posts

Default

I actually made a couple rosemary juleps last week that turned out pretty tasty so I say go for it! Personally though if your leaning towards the ipa instead of the barleywine I would make it drier and probably use more rosemary. I'm curious to see how this comes out

__________________
tflew is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-12-2013, 10:04 PM   #9
tflew
Feedback Score: 3 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 254
Liked 10 Times on 8 Posts

Default

I would leave the mint out too

__________________
tflew is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-12-2013, 10:12 PM   #10
peterj
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
peterj's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Smyrna, GA
Posts: 1,288
Liked 161 Times on 137 Posts
Likes Given: 91

Default

Yeah, I know the mint won't add actual sweetness but the perception of sweetness like BobbiLynn said above. Though I'm not totally sold on using it. Maybe I'll leave it out of this one to see how just rosemary works.

I don't know if I'm quite ready to make the leap into gruit. Maybe I'll try my luck with a hint of Rosemary and take it from there.

LabRatBrewer: How much rosemary did you use for that 1 gallon batch? Fresh?

__________________
peterj is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply



Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Rosemary Rye ale/IPA - Sanitize Rosemary? 11oclockBrewery General Techniques 9 05-22-2013 06:51 PM
brewing with rosemary and mint! jrut46 Recipes/Ingredients 4 04-28-2013 05:40 PM
Rosemary Travler Recipes/Ingredients 9 12-30-2012 05:45 PM
Who's used rosemary? foonder Recipes/Ingredients 32 05-04-2012 11:32 PM
Rosemary bellaruche Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 8 11-13-2010 08:41 PM