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Old 12-06-2008, 07:33 PM   #1
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Default Rogue Brutal Bitter Clone

Trying to come up with my own Brutal Bitter clone based on the stats and ingredients listed on Rogues website. On their site it says the color is 14.2 degrees Lovibond, is that the same as SRM? I just opened one and it definitely looks lighter than 14 SRM. Thanks guys!



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Old 12-06-2008, 07:47 PM   #2
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Yes, it's 14 SRM

This recipe will get real close.

Brutal Bitter

Batch Size (Gal): 6.00 Wort Size (Gal): 6.00
Total Grain (Lbs): 14.75
Anticipated OG: 1.064 Plato: 15.6
Anticipated SRM: 14.0
Anticipated IBU: 58.9
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70 %
Wort Boil Time: 90 Minutes


Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name Origin Potential SRM
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74.6 11.00 lbs. Pale Malt(2-row) Great Britain 1.038 3
13.6 2.00 lbs. CaraVienne Malt Belgium 1.034 22
11.9 1.75 lbs. CaraWheat Germany 1.035 46


Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
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1.75 oz. Crystal Whole 4.40 23.9 90 min.
1.75 oz. Crystal Whole 4.40 22.3 60 min.
2.00 oz. Crystal Whole 4.40 12.7 15 min.
1.50 oz. Crystal Whole 4.40 0.0 0 min.


Yeast
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Pacman

Mash around 152.



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Lovibond and SRM are nearly identical scales. I was looking at the Brutal Bitter kit that was designed by the headbrewer at Rogue and it says the kit is 8 SRM.

Here is the kit if you are interested in purchasing. It recommends Pacman yeast which can be found here.

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Thanks tfries, have you tried this?

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Yeah, I brewed this a few years ago and though that it turned out pretty well.

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Whats a good yeast substitute for Pacman?

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For this recipe it would be CL-50/Denny's Favorite/WY2450 or WY1272

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That's funny... I have a bunch of crystal hops and was going to try this recipe out after my conical is done being built in a few weeks... Wasn't shooting for Rogue's, but with all that crystal, I bet it will be nice...

Brew Type: All Grain Date: 11/11/2008
Style: American IPA Brewer:
Batch Size: 11.75 gal Assistant Brewer:
Boil Volume: 13.55 gal Boil Time: 90 min
Brewhouse Efficiency: 83.00 % Equipment: Brutus
Actual Efficiency: 83.85 %

Ingredients Amount Item Type % or IBU
22.00 lb Gambrinus Pale Malt (2.0 SRM) Grain 89.25 %
1.50 lb Caramel Malt - 40L 6-Row (Briess) (40.0 SRM) Grain 6.09 %
1.00 lb Victory Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 4.06 %
0.15 lb Chocolate Wheat Malt (400.0 SRM) Grain 0.61 %
3.00 oz Crystal [4.40 %] (90 min) Hops 19.5 IBU
2.00 oz Crystal [4.40 %] (90 min) (First Wort Hop) Hops 14.3 IBU
2.50 oz Crystal [4.40 %] (30 min) Hops 11.7 IBU
2.50 oz Crystal [4.40 %] (15 min) Hops 7.5 IBU
3.00 oz Crystal [4.40 %] (5 min) Hops 3.6 IBU
3.00 oz Crystal [4.40 %] (1 min) Hops 0.8 IBU

Beer Profile Estimated Original Gravity: 1.065 SG (1.056-1.075 SG)
Estimated Final Gravity: 1.017 SG (1.010-1.018 SG)
Measured Final Gravity: 1.005 SG
Estimated Color: 10.0 SRM (6.0-15.0 SRM) Color [Color]
Bitterness: 57.4 IBU (40.0-70.0 IBU) Alpha Acid Units: 44.0 AAU
Estimated Alcohol by Volume: 6.33 % (5.50-7.50 %) Actual Alcohol by Volume: 7.97 %
Actual Calories: 291 cal/pint

My 2 cents.

Afterwards, i was going to use the same recipe with the wheel barrel full of Mt Hoods I have in my freezer too...I think both will be very nice. I think I will have to go try myself a Brutal Bitter to compare to my what my thoughts are. Haven't had one in a long time...

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Lovibond and SRM are nearly identical scales. I was looking at the Brutal Bitter kit that was designed by the headbrewer at Rogue and it says the kit is 8 SRM.

Here is the kit if you are interested in purchasing. It recommends Pacman yeast which can be found here.
I am thinking of trying the kit. I am a beginning homebrewer, so I don't have strict temp. control options. It is between 60-67 degrees in my house, and a bit colder in my garage this time of year. Should I bother?
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I am thinking of trying the kit. I am a beginning homebrewer, so I don't have strict temp. control options. It is between 60-67 degrees in my house, and a bit colder in my garage this time of year. Should I bother?

If your house is 60-67 and you put your fermenter in a water bath(cooler, bathtub...etc.) and add Ice bottles as needed you'll be fine


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