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Old 05-16-2008, 05:47 PM   #1
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Default Help with RIS recipe: BP's Dark Night, But a Bit Less Bitter

I started with brewpastor's dark night of the soul recipe (for which, much thanks). I upped the grain bill a bit to cover any efficiency deficiency my system may experience with a beer of this magnitude. I also futzed with the hops to go for a little less bitterness and put some late additions for some flavor/aroma.

Batch Size: 5 gal
Boil Vol: 7 gal
Est'd efficiency: 65%
Est'd OG: 1.131
Est'd FG: 1.026
IBU: 144
SRM: 44

Grain bill:
24 lbs pale malt
1.25 roasted rye malt
1 chocolate
1 crystal 120
0.75 special B

2 oz magnum 60 min (67.7)
1 oz columbus 60 min (36)
1 oz columbus 30 min (27.6)
2 oz willamette 15 min (12.7)

Single step infusion mash at 155.

This will be my first attempt at a beer that is so friggin' 'uge. My MLT can't handle much more than a 15 lb mash, so I plan on doing this reiteratively. I will mash 14 lbs of pale and collect 4.5 gallons or wort. I will use this wort as water in the second mash for mash in, mash out and part of the sparge.

I plan on pitching this onto an american ale yeast cake (WLP001) from a speical bitter. Hoping I can get it to reach it's full 80% attenuation.

One question I have about my modifications to the recipe is the reduction in IBUs. BP's dark night has an IBU:OG ratio of 1.35:1. I've reduced this to about 1.1:1. Is this a bad idea? The reason I made this change is that I wanted to tone down the bitterness to give it a wider audience (i.e. use for xmas gifts).

I'm definitely going to bottle this one and am contemplating reserving wort to bottle condition.

Any comments or critiques would be much appreciated.

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Mine is still very bitter at almost a year old(maybe over a year). For my tastes, I would lower the IBU's next time. I like hoppy beers, but not really bitter hoppy beers. Its a great beer, but I think you'd be OK lower the IBU's a bit. I've never reserved wort to bottle, so I can't comment. Good luck.

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Mine is still very bitter at almost a year old(maybe over a year). For my tastes, I would lower the IBU's next time. I like hoppy beers, but not really bitter hoppy beers. Its a great beer, but I think you'd be OK lower the IBU's a bit. I've never reserved wort to bottle, so I can't comment. Good luck.
Thanks for the feedback. That's what I was concerned about at 178 IBUs. I wonder if 144 is still going to be a little bit aggressive. Perhaps I will do all the columbus at 30 min. That would bring it down to about 135 and almost 1:1 OG:IBU.

The calculation I've found for carbonating with gyle (reserved boiled wort) is pretty simple. Divide the volume by the OG (dropping the 1 and multplying by 1000 first) and multiply by 3 to get the amount of wort needed. So at 1.131:

5 gallons / 131 = 0.038 * 3 = 0.114 gallons x 4 qt/gal = 0.458 qts of gyle. You can probably adjust the 3 multiplier depending on whether the style or your preference calls for a higher or lower volume of CO2. I'm thinking probably lower for this one, particularly considering I hope to age a lot of it for several years.
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