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Old 03-20-2006, 06:41 PM   #11
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Thinking outside the box here. I can't say that I can think of any hops that may impart a grassy flavor. Although fuggles reminds me of a wet horse blanket, reminiscent of so many belgian beers I have had.

I have heard that sometimes malt derivatives can lead to a hay like taste. Would you consider grassy and haylike similar?
Yeah, I would say grassy == haylike. I doubt it's my malt extract, because I use the same extract for all of my beers, and only the IPA has this issue. Thus... is HAS to be coming from the hops. The only other malt in there is the 10L crystal, and I'm sure it's not that.

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But onto the hops.
Consider this for next time.
Try increasing the hops in your kettle addition (something with lower alpha acids say around 6.5-7.5) and strive for at least 25 IBU's
I'm fine with the IBUs I get out of this. It's just the grassy/haylike thing I am trying to eliminate. (And there is still debate on whether there IS a grassy taste... I'm the only one that has noticed it.)

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You could also swap out some or all of the NB for Centennial. Omitting the NB would take away the raisin/piney taste, and give you more of a citrus taste.
I actually WANT the piney taste. That's the exact reason I have NB in there.

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I think you might be suprised with the results if you used a Centennial/Cascade combo.
I've been considering using Centennial, and probably will at some point.

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Yeah profile = recipe
But onto the hops.
Consider this for next time.
Try increasing the hops in your kettle addition (something with lower alpha acids say around 6.5-7.5) and strive for at least 25 IBU's
Did you see how much hops Walker is already using?! Yowsers!!
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BOSTONBREWIN': you've had some of my IPA. Do you detect anything grassy in it?

The only fault I could find with your IPA was chill haze. Add a little Irish Moss to your hop salad. Other than that I thought it was delish. True to the style and quite tasty.

Why don't you axe the NB and go strictly with "C" hops.
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If you're looking for piney, give Simcoe a try.

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Old 03-21-2006, 02:54 AM   #15
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Why don't you axe the NB and go strictly with "C" hops.
Because I want a piney, almost minty taste. (anyone got a spruce ale they could send me?... maybe THAT's what I'm really after. )

There is a localish commercial IPA that I am in love with. The Mash House's "Hoppy Hour IPA". I was never much of an IPA fan before (that's SWMBO's end of the beer spectrum, I'm on the dark roasty and/or malty side), but I picked a 6er of Hoppy Hour up one time, had one, and fell head over heals for it.

I was pleased to find that that had listed on the side of the bottle that the flavor (which I find solidly bitter with notes of piney, almost minty ZING! to it) comes from generous use of cascades and northern brewer.

I'm not exactly trying to clone this beer, but I do want something very similar. I feel I am getting realtively close my goal after just two iterations.

The f'ed up thing is that, right now, I am drinking one of my IPAs, and I do not notice the grassy flavor! I MUST be going crazy.

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If you're looking for piney, give Simcoe a try.
Never had it. Maybe I'll check it out.

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I should clarify....I've never used it, either, but I've got a pound of it. It's generally described as "piney", and is featured (among others) in Pliny the Elder, which is said to have a piney character.

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I should clarify....I've never used it, either, but I've got a pound of it. It's generally described as "piney", and is featured (among others) in Pliny the Elder, which is said to have a piney character.
When did you get that?

I just got 6 ounces in a trade...can't wait to make something with it.

I've only had it in one beer, the legend Hopfest. Awesome, awesome brew.
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When did you get that?
The minute they were available after the last harvest. I gotta get them used before they're too old.
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The f'ed up thing is that, right now, I am drinking one of my IPAs, and I do not notice the grassy flavor! I MUST be going crazy.
That or the warm weather we had the last few weeks kicked your allergies up and affected your taste buds! Hmmm...wonder if I could incorporate pine pollen into one of my brews this Spring...
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Why don't you try some Goldings?

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