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Chris7687 12-12-2012 02:02 PM

Red IPA Attempt
 
Hey guys,
Put together a Red IPA mainly using the BeerSmith SRM gauge on the side. This is for a 2.5 gallon batch. Please let me know what you think of the malt profile. I am curious to know if these malts will taste good together.

6 lbs 3 oz - Maris Otter
14 oz - Caramel 60
7 oz - Munich
7 oz - Vienna
4 oz - Melanoiden (to obtain the red)

I know it is hearty and flavorful malts that are in this Red. As I mentioned, this is my first attempt at putting together a Red IPA.

As for hops and their schedules, that is still up in the air. I currently am sitting on a large variety of hops. Have a new few hops that I am looking to experiment with, but here is a list of what I have: Legacy, Columbus, Calypso, Centennial, Belma, Citra, Magnum, Czech Saaz, Fuggle, Williamette, Greater Hall., Cascade, and Amarillo.

I was personally thinking some Cascade for bittering, Amarillo for flavor, and a citra whole leaf for dry hopping (or maybe Legacy to try out the new hop).

Yooper 12-12-2012 02:06 PM

That's too much crystal, and too much melanoidin, in my opinion.

For a more "red" color, you could use some carared instead of the crystal 60L (in the amount of no more than 8 ounces, and that is pushing it) and an ounce of roasted barley for color. Why the 7 ounces of both Vienna and Munich? It's ok, but it's such a small amount I"d probably juse double of of them, or go with a whole pound of one of them. Munich gives an "orange-y" hue, so that might be the one to go with if you want red.

msh227 12-12-2012 02:15 PM

Why Marris Otter and not a Pale Malt?

I made a 5 gallon batch of Red Ale that had the following:

7.4 lb Pale Ale
8oz CaraMunich
8oz Crystal 80L
8oz Crystal 120L
2.08oz Barley (Roasted)

Turned out very nice with a deep dark red color.

Chris7687 12-12-2012 02:19 PM

Yooper, thanks for the input.

So the adjusted recipe with your advice is looking like so:
6lbs 3 oz - MO
1lb - Vienna
8oz - Carared
3oz - Melanoiden

The BeerSmith SRM picture is showing it Pale Ale looking color, it doesn't look red.

Chris7687 12-12-2012 02:21 PM

msh227 - Why Marris Otter and not a Pale Malt?

Just decided to try something new, never made an IPA with MO, but I am open to suggestions on why not to use it. Don't want to waste and expensive malt.

msh227 12-12-2012 02:24 PM

Sounds good, see how it turns out. I was just curious what your thinking was, experimenting is the best part of brewing.

GrogNerd 12-12-2012 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris7687 (Post 4674869)
I was personally thinking some Cascade for bittering, Amarillo for flavor, and a citra whole leaf for dry hopping (or maybe Legacy to try out the new hop).

I'm just a n00b and not really familiar with different hop combinations, but this looks good to me.

the grain bill looks very similar to mine for my AIPA; I have never used MO (am dying to), used regular 2-row + munich + vienna, but no crystal at all (advice from LHBS owner, sound reasoning and I'm happy with how it tasted when I bottled this past saturday)

never used melanoidin either.

I put your grain bill into Beersmith and LIKE the color (I got 15.9, is that what you got?), but I LOVE the way it looks at 14.8.

substitute 60L crystal for 11 oz of 20L and add 4oz of 120L.

see how that grabs you

or, better advice... listen to the advice of the people I take advice from

Chris7687 12-12-2012 03:06 PM

GrogNerd - Thanks for the advice.

I think I am going with the combination of the advices.

6 lbs - MO
12 oz - Vienna
8 oz - Carared
5 oz - Melanoiden
4.8 oz - Caramel 120

Est. OG - 1.091
SRM - 14.1

Hops:
1 oz Columbus (12.0 AA) @ 70.2 IBUS
0.5 oz Amarillo (8.5 AA) @ 19 IBUS
0.25 Cascade (5.5 AA) @ 1.6 IBUS
Total IBUS: 90.8.... Did I mention this was an Imperial Red IPA!!

Going to make the brew this week, bottle in January, and give a report towards the end of January.

bferullo 12-12-2012 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris7687 (Post 4674953)
msh227 - Why Marris Otter and not a Pale Malt?

Just decided to try something new, never made an IPA with MO, but I am open to suggestions on why not to use it. Don't want to waste and expensive malt.

I love MO as a base malt replacing 2-row. I use it almost entirely, or sometimes 75/25 MO/Pale 2-row.

I also have a red Hopped Ale under my recipes that came out delicious IMO. Although that may be a little biased :)

Chris7687 12-12-2012 03:31 PM

I liked that hop schedule, I wish I had a friend that would stand there and do a hop schedule like that for me! Maybe I can find a little beer gnome to do this for me.


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