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Old 11-10-2008, 04:40 PM   #1
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Is there some easy way to convert say a 0.5lb Crystal 90L to something I can actually buy? Like 80L 120L and so forth?

I also have a recipes that call for Crystal 75L and 25L and I can only purchase 20,40,60,90 and 120L

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I can only purchase 20,40,60,90 and 120L
don't u mean "80" instead of "90" (since you asked how to convert 90)?

other than being a smart ass I can't help you with this one...
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Good catch - I noticed I can BUY 90 but my software only has 80!

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Use the closest that you can get. If you overdo the crystal amounts (especially with the higher Ls), you'll get far too much sweetness and dark fruit.

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Add it to your database- if you can get the data sheet from your source about SRM, ppg, etc.
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Is there some easy way to convert say a 0.5lb Crystal 90L to something I can actually buy? Like 80L 120L and so forth?

I also have a recipes that call for Crystal 75L and 25L and I can only purchase 20,40,60,90 and 120L
.5 lbs crystal 90L = .51 lbs crystal 80L

weird numbers though 75? 25l? Baird makes a 34L british crystal...Just use either more of the lesser rated or less of the greater...or don't do any adjustment that's what I do.
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.5 lbs crystal 90L = .51 lbs crystal 80L
So you are saying there is not THAT much difference.

And what flyangler18 is saying it is better to use a lower then a higher for crystal.

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C80 and C90 are pretty close as far as potential yield and the other ratings for software. I just copied C80 and adjusted the SRM for C90.

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So you are saying there is not THAT much difference.

And what flyangler18 is saying it is better to use a lower then a higher for crystal.

thanks.
yeah recipes aren't formulas...I'll change a recipe if I think its wack, say it calls for 1/2lbs of crystal 80 I'll do 60 instead and add a little black malt for color or whatever. I'm not a big fan of the crystal so I stick with the less than 60 variety in a pale ale. I pretty much just use British Crystal for everything, and the old-school default 'British Crystal' is 60L. (I make a lot of bitters, and strong ales(the 1.050 'real' kind), british pa's)
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80L and 90L are close enough to just do a one-for-one sub. If the recipe calls for 75L and you can get 60L and 90L, I'd probably split it between them - although know that it's not just a matter of averaging. A pound of 20L and a pound of 60L is not the same as 2lbs of 40L; there are differences in flavor that I think are more important than the color. But, if you're subbing within 10L or 15L of what the original recipe called for, you're probably going to be CLOSE ENOUGH.

Also, I would *not* add more to make up the color difference (using more 40L if a recipe calls for 60L); you'll get the color but screw up the flavor, sweetness, and body.

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We could use a definitive resource on Crystal malts. For example, a 55L-65L is different than a 60L. And what's a 15L and why is it different than a 10L or a 20L?

It should be noted that .5# Crystal 90L is NOT identical (key word) to 0.51# Crystal 80L. They are substitutable, but they will lend slightly different characteristics.

In the end, you work with what you have available. I plan to buy a bunch of the british "ranged" Crystals - the Muntons brand name, 55-65L and so on. Those are not the same as 40L and 60L.

Stupid ambiguity. LOL.

In your instance, I would just use 0.5# 80L and be done with it, don't sweat the minimal amount of extra color. What kind of brew is it?

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