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Old 12-11-2008, 03:10 AM   #11
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I have a pump in my arsenal. My current plan is to very slowly recirculate for at least 20 minutes. I think that's the best I can do... just curious.



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Nice... that wort will be beautiful enough to bring a tear to my eye. If I were there to see it.



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Old 05-28-2009, 02:16 PM   #13
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Alright... This is getting brewed on June 13th!

Recipe: Helles
Brewer: Justin S. Talbot
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Style: Munich Helles
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (0.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 11.00 gal
Boil Size: 13.82 gal
Estimated OG: 1.049 SG
Estimated Color: 3.4 SRM
Estimated IBU: 17.1 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 78.00 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
4.0 oz Rice Hulls (0.0 SRM) Adjunct 1.33 %
17 lbs 12.0ozPilsner (2 Row) Ger (2.0 SRM) Grain 94.67 %
12.0 oz Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 4.00 %

2.50 oz Hallertauer Hersbrucker [4.00 %] (60 min)Hops 17.0 IBU
0.10 oz Hallertauer Hersbrucker [4.00 %] (1 min) Hops 0.0 IBU

1 Pkgs Bohemian Lager (Wyeast Labs #2124) [StarteYeast-Lager


Mash Schedule: Decoction Mash, Single
Total Grain Weight: 18.75 lb
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Decoction Mash, Single
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
35 min Protein/Sacc rest Add 37.50 qt of water at 140.9 F 133.0 F
45 min Saccharification Decoct 12.50 qt of mash 155.0 F
10 min Mash out Add 13.18 qt of water at 210.0 F 168.0 F

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Please let me know what you think. Suggestions? Comments?

Also, I am looking for a good Wiesn style Okteberfestbier recipe if anyone has one. Not a traditional Marzen beer, a lighter drinking beer typically served at the O-fest.

Thanks,
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Helles was my O-fest beer last year, they drink that stuff by the liter over in Germany so I thought it was the most appropriate. September is still hot here so I'm not in the mood for a Maerzen anyway.

Recipe looks awesome. I prefer the herbal nature of Saaz myself, but if you like the floral-ness of the Hallertau by all means carry on.

The 34/70 strain (WY2124 / WLP830) is one of my favorite yeast strains, it makes an amazingly clean and malty beer.
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Looks good BK... except those rice hulls are so non-Reinheitsgebot-y!

I like your mash schedule. Although I will say that I've really come to like the Hochkurz mash schedule. I recently brewed a German pils using it and it will be ready to drink tomorrow night. All indications are that it is awesome, but I have yet to see the foam stability for it.

Also, I don't know if you saw my thread on Saflager W-34/70, but I brewed the aforementioned Pils with it and it is awesome. I don't plan on using liquid lager yeast again for a long time. It was so nice not to have to make a huge starter and it tastes the same (if not even cleaner, probably due to better pitch rate than my starters were) as WLP830 (and, therefore Wyeast 2124).

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Yeah I guess I could get rid of the rice hulls. I just use them as habit now.

I think I will try the dry yeast, it is easier and the cost should be about equal. Mr. malty says I need to pitch 50 grams of dry yeast for a 1.050 lager. Crazy.

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Mr. malty says I need to pitch 50 grams of dry yeast for a 1.050 lager. Crazy.
Really? I definitely have my reserves about the reality of the results of that calculator, but I just ran the numbers and came up with 23 grams per 5.25 gallons with a production date as far back as 1/1/09. All I can say is that I pitched 23 grams into ~5.5 gallons and it came out clean as a whistle with good attenuation (76%).
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Oh, yeah. I brew 11 gallon batches. that's where the 50g comes in. So the same pitching rate as you used.

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I like your mash schedule. Although I will say that I've really come to like the Hochkurz mash schedule. I recently brewed a German pils using it and it will be ready to drink tomorrow night. All indications are that it is awesome, but I have yet to see the foam stability for it.

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I've also been very happy with the Hochkurz mashes I've done for 3 Helles, just using straight german pils malt and 2124 or 2206.
Basically following this and skipping the 133F step.
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I'd like to compare my Helles to some from Munich, but I don't really trust any light lagers travelling the globe to be representative of what I'd drink on draft in beer gardens. Maybe I'll have to take mine there
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Oh, yeah. I brew 11 gallon batches. that's where the 50g comes in. So the same pitching rate as you used.
Me too... I used 4 packs. At ~$3.00 a pack, it's still about equal to the cost of a vial and DME for a huge starter, minus all the hassle.


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