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10-04-2007, 02:24 AM
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I was looking for a very light English summer Pale Ale. I am modeling after Real Ale's "Rio Blanco" Pale Ale
Malt:
9 lbs 2-row
1 lbs carapils
1 lbs vienna
Hops:
Saaz 4%:
1 oz 60 mins
1 oz 15 mins
Yeast:
Wyeast 1098
OG: 1.051 (65% eff)
22 IBU
5% ABV
Color: 4.3
Sounds reasonable?
Comments?
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10-04-2007, 03:04 AM
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it's kinda heavy on the alcohol and light on the hops for an English Pale, which sounds mighty tasty to me!
I don't think the saaz really fits, either, but i love the stuff so I say go for it
if you want to check out the styles, check out the BJCP guidelines here:
http://www.bjcp.org/styles04/
Check out the recipes on the boards too. and tons of recipes here:
http://hbd.org/cgi-bin/recipator/recipes
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10-04-2007, 01:34 PM
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Nothing wrong with higher abv  , but I agree with DB - maybe some EKG or fuggles at 60 and .5 oz at 5 min for aroma?
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10-04-2007, 01:37 PM
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How full-bodied do you want it? A pound is a fairly high amount of carapils. I'd be inclined to do the grain bill with a British pale malt, mash a little higher if you want it fuller-bodied, then add a modest amount of a low crystal (maybe 20L). The Vienna isn't common for an English beer, but should make a nice addition.
I agree, too, that EKG/Fuggles are classic for this type of beer.
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10-04-2007, 05:38 PM
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Not much there says Light English ale to me. Maybe because Rio Blanco is an American pale ale.
If you want a light English try the Boddies.
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10-04-2007, 07:08 PM
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That sounds like a nice beer, if a bit high on the OG for something I think of as "very light" and for Summer. I might consider knocking off a pound of the 2-row to make it a little more of a session beer and to bring the balance a little more back to the hops, but that's totally a matter of personal taste..
That carapils will make for some body, but I bet it's nice. It will not be a crisp beer, though. And, like the others said, it's not an English Pale Ale. I still like the sound of it, and I'd drink it right up.
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10-05-2007, 05:07 PM
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So, it's not supposed to be an Eglish Pale Ale, but an English style summer ale or a "Golden Ale".
I like the idea of going with english pale malt instead of 2-row, but I'm pretty stuck on the saaz as of right now.
I'm looking for a beer my BMC buds will drink, but kind of want that big, long lasting head like english beer, however, so I thought that the carapils might help.
World Beer Cup description:
"English-Style Summer Ale
English Summer Ale is light straw to golden colored with medium-low to medium bitterness, light to medium-light body, and low to medium residual malt sweetness. Torrefied and/or malted wheat are often used in quantities of 25% or less. Malt flavor may be biscuit-like. English, American or Noble-type hop, character, flavor and aroma are evident and may or may not be assertive yet always well balanced with malt character... The overall impression is refreshing and thirst quenching."
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10-05-2007, 06:50 PM
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I think you are going more for a Pils than an English Ale.
Call it what you want.
You need an English base and hops with more IBU for it to be an authentic English Summer Ale.
http://www.allaboutbeer.com/homebrew/23.2-summerale.html
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10-05-2007, 07:23 PM
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I'll just call it "beer"
However, I'd like to call it "beer, with a thick, foamy head"
Will the carapils take care of that for me? Is there anything else I could do kind of accentuate that without making the beer darker?
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10-05-2007, 07:27 PM
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Mash High, use a little torrifed wheat.
One of the problems is going light and wanting good head is possible chill haxze.
I don't drink chilled so do not suffer that.
* The use of body and head enhancing malts such as crystal, wheat, or carafoam
* The altering of the mash schedule to enhance head retaining proteins
* The use of heading agents - additives that enhance head retention
* Addition of high alpha hops - which will increase bitterness, but also increas isohumulones that enhance head retention
* Limiting the use of household soaps on drinking glasses and homebrew equipment
* The use of a nitrogen and CO2 mix for carbonation and serving
* The shape of the glass used to serve the beer
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