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Old 11-21-2006, 09:18 PM   #1
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I'm planning on doing a raspberry beer next. I thought I could do something similar to Lindeman's Framboise, but I'm getting the impression that Lambics are in a class of their own, and aren't really cloneable by standard methods, so I'm just going to try for a semi-wheat fruit ale something or other. I'm shooting for a pretty light bodied ale. This is the recipe I've put together so far:

4.00 lb Pale Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 36.4 %
4.00 lb Wheat Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 36.4 %
1.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 9.1 %
1.00 lb Wheat Malt, Bel (2.0 SRM) Grain 9.1 %
1.00 lb Brown Sugar, Light (8.0 SRM) Sugar 9.1 %

1.00 oz Saaz [4.00%] (20 min) Hops 6.1 IBU
1.00 oz Crystal [3.50%] (10 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep) Hops -

1 Pkgs European Ale (White Labs #WLP011) Yeast-Ale

5.00 lb Raspberries, Fresh/Frozen (Secondary 2.0 weeks) Misc

Does this seem pretty reasonable? This will be the most adventurous brew I've attempted so far, and I'm a little concerned about getting it right.

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Old 11-21-2006, 09:22 PM   #2
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That looks like a lot of raspberries. I used two pounds in a 2.5 gallon recipe, and it was pretty overpowering. Depends on what you're looking for.

You'll also lose a lot of beer to the berry trub, keep in mind.

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Well, I'm aiming for something pretty sweet, I think. I don't mind an overpowering raspberry taste at all. I'm really interested in experimenting with flavors anyway, so that's fine. But how much volume would I lose to the secondary trub? You said you made a 2.5gal batch; how much did you end up with? Less than a case?

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Yeah. I can't remember specifically, and honestly, I don't miss what I lost (the beer was a failure on many levels). Even more so that usual, you can't rack every last bit, because the raspberry gunk (at least some of it) will float and get into the bottling bucket, so you have to leave more behind on top of the trub than you usually would. I would certainly plan for at least a 5.5 gallon batch and probably expect to net a little less than two cases.

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I wonder if I could stretch a sanitized piece of cheese cloth or muslin across my bottling bucket to catch debris when I racked from the secondary. Would that filter out yeast as well as seeds and such? What other problems did you have with yours? If it's too much hassle and misery, I might hold off on it for now and do it another time.

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You would be better to tie the muslin/cheese cloth around the end of the racking cane to keep out the seeds etc. to begin with. Running it over the bottling bucket will cause too much oxygenation which leads to stale/oxidized beer.

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You'd risk aerating the beer, I would think.

I'm not telling you not to do this, just be prepared to lose some beer in the process. You just have to be really careful in racking and not get too greedy. If I do another fruit beer (I *may* do a raspberry wheat in the spring), I'll probably experiment with extract instead of real fruit.

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Yeah, I figuring stretching it over the top would be bad, but then I thought it could clog it if I tied it too tightly to the cane. It is doable, though. As for extract, I'd considered that, but I wanted a more "authentic" taste. I bet it would be quite a bit easier to work with, however.

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If you want a real, distinct raspberry taste, I would probably stick to the berries, trouble and all. Freeze them, then heat them in a little water at 160 degrees for ten minutes, cool them, add them to the secondary and rack on top of them.

If you want more a hint of raspberry flavor (which will be the direction I go, if I go there), extract's got to be a LOT easier to work with.

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Yeah, I think I'll just start with 5.5 gallons in my primary, and then lose some in each racking, hopefully ending up with about two cases without being greedy towards the bottom.

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