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rumham 04-19-2012 07:18 AM

R2, H56 Partial mash Clone recipe critique please
I have very little experience with making my own recipes. I kind of winged my last IPA, and it turned out OK, but not great. I recently tried this beer and loved it; I have some simcoe handy, so I thought I'd do my best to replicate it. I know I am in the ballpark for OG and IBUs, as well as the percentage of Crystal. Any advice is appreciated (esp. w/ the grain bill). Thanks in advance!

% lbs oz fermentable

23% 2 0 Pilsner Malt
23% 2 0 Pilsner DME (late addition)
23% 2 0 Marris Otter (Crisp)
15% 1 6 Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L
11% 1 0 Pilsner DME
6% 0 8 Acid Malt

time oz variety form aa%

boil 90 mins 0.5 Simcoe leaf 11.2
boil 30 mins 0.75 Simcoe leaf 11.2
boil 0 min 1.0 Simcoe leaf 11.2
dry hop 7 days 1.0 Simcoe leaf 11.2

White Labs Cali Ale Yeast

Est. OG: 1.056
Est. FG: 1.014
Est. IBU: 44.6

I was thinking I'd mash at around 154.

rumham 04-20-2012 03:49 AM


Piratwolf 04-20-2012 09:34 AM

Lack of replies may have to do w/ a strange recipe + unfamiliar beer. That's my problem, at least. Never seen an IPA recipe that's mostly pilsner malt. So it may be that in unfamiliar territory the best you can do is experiment. FWIW, I do 2.5 gal test batches in order to minimize expense in case it turns out merely OK.

In terms of general approach, it looks like you're in good shape. I like the late DME for lighter color. Personally I'd push the 30 min hop to 15-20, but that's just my style.

rumham 04-20-2012 04:33 PM

Thanks for the response. Row 2 Hill 56 is a strong pale ale from Russian River. I got some general guidelines on the recipe from Vinnie Cilurzo after inquiring via email, so I know the hops schedule is in line with theirs. I'm really just unsure about the amount of marris otter vs pilsner.

Piratwolf 04-20-2012 04:58 PM

Nice! How cool that Vinnie shared the info with you. I'm jealous... on the wrong coast to get Russian River.

Good luck! If you decide to go for it, I hope you'll post back here with your results. I'd love to make an RR beer since I can't get the real thing!

nduetime 04-27-2012 07:30 PM

Can't offer any personal advise on the recipe due to my lack of recipe generation but I will be meeting with some others that have more experience with creating recipes. I'll be sure to share my growler of r2, h56 and see if they can offer some advise. Great beer by the way.

eastoak 05-02-2012 09:33 PM

this relatively unknown beer is one of the best beers i've ever had, there is very little information on the various homebrew forums about brewing this and i was also thinking of emailing RR to ask for some information on the grain bill. i doubt i'll be able to replicate the absolutely incredible simcoe flavor but i will give it a try.

ampsman 07-25-2012 09:46 PM

Any updates? Anyone attempt this yet?

Hethen57 11-12-2012 08:28 PM

Great beer...just had it over the weekend! Any updates? How sure are you that there is Pilsner and M.O. in this recipe? Thanks.

Jukas 11-27-2012 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by rumham (Post 4011746)

You're high on your % of Crystal, it should be around 8% of less and there is no acid malt used (at least not in all grain). Hop schedule is indeed 90/30/0.


Originally Posted by Hethen57 (Post 4582764)
Great beer...just had it over the weekend! Any updates? How sure are you that there is Pilsner and M.O. in this recipe? Thanks.

I've posted an AG recipe I've brewed multiple times, with direct guidance from Vinnie. Base malts are indeed a Pils and M.O. with a 70/30 split.

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