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Old 08-22-2014, 08:47 PM   #1
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Project Thor’s Hammer

Okay so lets talk about whats going on here. I like Odell and their beers, I super enjoy their IPAs and in this blog post is going to be my story of how I cloned Mycenary, their DIPA. For those of you that suck and havnt tried it yet you are missing out. Odell Myrcenary is the beer that made me like beer. Unlike most beer drinkers that start off with some sad American Lager and slowly moved into craft beer and then further toward the outer bounds of double IPAs and Russian Imperials I pretty much did the opposite. For me there was just something I Liked about bitter beer and full hop flavors, Myrcenary provided both. The best way I can describe Odell Myrcenary is green, and not green as is bad tasting young beer but green as in someone just shoved a hop garden into your mouth while you were relaxing out in the summer sun. So years later from after starting to enjoy all types of beer and learning how to make my own, Myrcenary is still my favorite. I have not been able to make a beer anywhere near its level.

My brewing processes have changed over the years from extract to all grain, I’ve picked up tons of tips and tricks, read lots of material and now I have enough confidence to say I’m a decent home brewer. Decent as in my last few batches don’t taste like plastic and band aids. I currently have a HERMS system, use temp controllers to monitor fermentation, brew with RO water and salts, monitor my mash PH and mill my own grain. I love this beer, want this beer and have decided that I can and will make this beer, and because of this I have decided to create project Thor’s Hammer.

So why Thor’s Hammer? Because the name is awesome and it makes it sound like I’m doing something super cool, cause after all I am. Furthermore Thor is a bad ass just like this beer and this beer will hit you harder than Thor’s Hammer if you are not careful. Now let’s get down to my process and progress of this Mercenary clone.

So I began doing research on Myrcenary a few weeks ago. I was able to find one thread on HBT that might be related to cloning Myrcenary but it’s just a cluster of people talking about “Pro dry hopping technique” with no one with the balls to even try cloning this beer. So I went straight to the source asking Odell for info on the beer. After several emails to them and after getting a decent amount of info they basically told me to have fun go fly solo because they were not going to hand hold me through this recipe.

Here are the emails I received from them that have info that will be helpful to my project.

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Hi Sam,

I checked in with our pilot brewer and here’s what he had to say:

It is humbling to hear that our monster double IPA got you into the beer world. Thank you! As far as a recipe goes it is quite difficult for me to give any specific advice without a batch size and specific questions. We use a blend of 2-row pale malt, pilsner, caramalt, honey malt, and carafoam. Lots of different hops; We hit it lightly with Columbus early in the boil and finish heavy with blends of Cascade, Bravo, Centennial and Chinook post boil and Hop Back. We then dry hop it with over 1# per barrel (31 gallons) of Bravo, Centennial, and Chinook. That’s about all the secrets I can give out. Good luck and thanks for all the continued support.

Cheers!

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Hi Sam,

Here’s the info from our pilot system manager:

Our OG is around 21-22 (1.087 – 1.092) plato and finishes at 4-5 (1.016 – 1.020) plato. Mash temp is around 151 and a fermenting temp of 67f°. We do not use any sugar. It is 100% malt.

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We’ve given out all the secrets we can. Best of luck!
From their website we can get a few extra bits of information, the IBU is 70 and a nice fancy picture so we can aim the SRM and maybe help us get the malt bill.
Further research and google fu, lead Ryan and I to some US Customs page that showed Odell gets lots of deliveries from Thomas Fawcett, a company that makes delicious malts. Also other sources online point to Odell claiming to really like Fawcett caramalt, and since that has a pretty unique taste and they said they use caramalt in the beer I will be specifically using that brand. I also have a suspicion that they use Fawcett for their base grain but until my clone gets close I’m going to use a nice maris otter because its about half the cost of Fawcett pale ale. As for yeast Odell has a house strain that I plan on harvesting out of their easy street beer since that is unfiltered.

I will be brewing up 1 – 2 gallon batches, 2 if I want to split it and try different dry hops or yeast but otherwise probably just 1 gallon batches so I can drink the full batch faster and be able to brew it many times slowly tweaking the recipe till I have cloned the beer or somehow managed to make something even better. And so the journey begins.


Here is Version 0.1 that I will be brewing up on my next brew day, I will post all of these in 5 gallon recipes. I plan on making a 2 gallon batch and splitting yeast between something I can harvest from Odell and some Nottingham.

Beersmith thinks it will look like this, so I think we are somewhere in the right ballpark… maybe.

Please let me know if you have any ideas or suggestions or think I should make any tweaks to version 1 recipe before I brew.
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Old 08-23-2014, 02:21 PM   #2
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Sounds like a nice IIPA, let us know how it turns out.

One comment on your recipe - am I reading it correctly that you are doing four hop additions: fwh, 60 min, 30 min, and dry hop? If so, that would be very unusual for an IIPA, in my experience. Usually there would be later additions to the boil, say at 15, 10, 5 and flame out. And the pro brewer seems to mean that, too, in his comments about adding massive amounts late. Also, the IBU calculations on your Beersmith page are way off, but I can't tell why.

As for the Thor's Hammer name, I thought about having my legal counsel at Dewey Cheatham and Howe send you a cease-and-desist letter. I made an imperial porter that was aged in a bourbon barrel that I call Mjolnir, which is the actual name of Thor's Hammer. But, upon reflection, I think there is room for both of these names and no need to involve the judicial system.

Seriously, good luck with the brew. Let us know how it turns out.

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Old 08-23-2014, 03:25 PM   #3
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Well my IBUs are off because beersmith isnt calculating any for the flameout additions but they will be held above 180 im assuming for the first 30 minutes so a lot of ibu will come from them. I read the email more like this
We hit it lightly with Columbus early in the boil
and finish heavy with blends of Cascade, Bravo, Centennial and Chinook post boil
and Hop Back.
We then dry hop it with over 1# per barrel (31 gallons) of Bravo, Centennial, and Chinook.
where only the columbus are in the acutall boil
then my 60 minute aroma would be the post boil
and my 30 minute at a cooler temp would be equivalent to the hop back, since i don't have one of those I'm going to have to just play around.
then the dry hop.

Im assuming your reading it more like they finish heavy, post boil and hopback with the mentioned hops. hmmmm

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Project Thor’s Hammer – Yeastie Beasties


So begins the journey of becoming a yeast cowboy and finding enough of the right yeast for my beer. I know Odell’s easy street wheat can be harvested for its yeast and I’m fairly sure that is their house strain and I’m fairly sure that’s the same yeast used in Myrcenary. But not 100% positive, so I figured I could just try to get yeast from Myrcenary itself then I would know for sure that that is the correct yeast. I have successfully harvested yeast from bottle dredges before, however this beer was bottle conditioned and there was noticeable amounts of sediment on the bottom of the bottle. This beer on the other hand is like crystal clear, meaning there is very little to no yeast in these bottles at all. My hope is that Odell does not filter their beer and like many craft breweries just uses bright tanks and cold crashing to achieve clarity. To get started I brewed up a 1 liter starter of 1.020, looking back I should have probably made it more like 250 – 500ml but its too late for that now.



I cooled it down to the 70s and than began the fun part of harvesting the dredges from the bottles. I figured I should probably harvest as much dredge material as possible since I literally cant even see if yeast are in there. So I poured a glass and left the last 1-2 inches in the bottle and dumped it into the starter.



Admired the beer for color and thought really hard about the recipe as I drank it.



Then I repeated that process a bit.



So after 2 days of letting it sit there, I woke up to what I hope is baby krausen and not some sort of infection. The picture is super garbage but its a dense cluster of tiny white bubbles.



So the plan is to let this sit a few days and to see what happens. If not I will probably choke down a pack of east street since I know I can harvest yeast from there.

Its alive! Smells nice a fruity, this is the right stuff. So note to all on the internet, you can harvest yeast from Odell Myrcenary.



Since this beer is yeast, hops, grain and water I can happily say that we are 25% cloned.
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As for the Thor's Hammer name, I thought about having my legal counsel at Dewey Cheatham and Howe send you a cease-and-desist letter. I made an imperial porter that was aged in a bourbon barrel that I call Mjolnir, which is the actual name of Thor's Hammer. But, upon reflection, I think there is room for both of these names and no need to involve the judicial system.
Funny. I was going to send YOU a cease and Desist letter because I was going to make a TRIPLE IPA and name it Mjolnir (And have a hammer for a tap handle!)

But I changed my mind since my beer would be WAY hoppier than a whimpy bourbon barrel porter.

Plus, since I can't sell my beer, and I REALLY dislike lawyers, I am going to let it ride this one time.
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Subscribed. Love Myrcenary! One of the best double IPAs I've tried.


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