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Old 02-21-2011, 03:32 PM   #1
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Hey guys and gals, I've heard so dang much about Pliny the Elder but am located in TX and just can't get a hold of a bottle or 12, so I'd like to brew up a batch so I can finally see what all the hubbub is about. The dilemma I see is which recipe should I brew?

I know Vinnie collaborated with Brew Your Own and came up with a 5gal version and thats what i would like to brew. I found one recipe that claims to be the BYO one here: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/impe...tml#post129699

Another that looks like it could be official recipe is this one: http://farmhousebrewingsupply.fmtemp...ne%20PDF-1.pdf

Both have similar grainbills (slightly different %s), but the hops are pretty different in the two, and for this beer, I really want them to be right.

So, what do you think? Which is Vinnie's homebrew Pliny?

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Old 02-21-2011, 03:55 PM   #2
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They both are, the first one was the recipe he handed out a few years ago, the other is more recent. I brewed the old one and really liked the results, I've heard similarly positive reviews on the new one as well.

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Old 02-21-2011, 04:07 PM   #3
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I've brewed the new one and it is awesome. I used Maris Otter which was quite nice!

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Old 02-21-2011, 04:20 PM   #4
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Awesome! Thanks for the replies! Looks like I'm good with either recipe. Lupulin threshold shift, here I come!

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Just kegged a batch of the newer recipe using the Pliny Pack sold at farmhouse brewing supply. I subbed crystal-10 for the crystal-45 to better replicate the color, but kept the percentage the same, and I used american 2-row for my batch.

Came out very close to the actual thing. Aroma is the only thing lacking in my opinion, but even then it's not off by much.

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I brewed the new one, with the Pliny Hop Pack from farmhouse brewing supply. Turned out great, best beer I have brewed. I think the key is to have a low finishing gravity to make the Hops really pop. I mashed at 148deg for 90 min, boil for 90 min, aerated with O2 and pitched a 2L starter from a stir plate. My FG was 1.005. Keg didn't last near long enough. I just ordered another Pliny Hop Pack for my next brew.

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I've been eyeing the Pliny Pack at Farmhouse, but the website says it's out of stock. When it's back in stock, I'll have to grab up a pack or two.

@Garrett what about the aroma needs changing? For someone who hasn't had a Pliny the Elder before, does it matter much? Just curious. Thanks!

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@Garrett what about the aroma needs changing? For someone who hasn't had a Pliny the Elder before, does it matter much? Just curious. Thanks!
It's just a little weak IMHO, and this was my first dry-hopped beer so I'm not sure how to alter that between upping the weight of hops or shortening/lengthening the dry hop period. The actual aromas are very similar to the ones in pliny, just not as pronounced. When I pour the beer, I'm not overcome with a wave of citrus and pine hops like the real thing. Even still, it's one of the best aromas you will encounter in a IIPA, so it doesn't really matter much.
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I'm wondering the same thing. I have the original recipe which has CTZ(Columbus) hops, no Chinook and Warrior.

I can buy a pound of Columbus for $10, or spend $20 to get just enough of the Chinook, Simcoe, etc.

I guess my question is, which of these is better?

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I guess my question is, which of these is better?
"better" is all in the eye of the beholder. What I was wondering is why Vinnie changed his recipe. Hops availability? Overall "improvement" of the recipe? Etc.

Eiher way, I just got the hops for the new recipe so I'll be brewing that one up at some point!
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