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Old 01-22-2013, 02:22 PM   #11
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Well I have no other means of doing a full boil. I have had great success with partial boils and big ipa's. I did a surly furious clone a while back and have it kegged and its very delicious and very hippy.

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Old 01-22-2013, 02:23 PM   #12
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Well I have no other means of doing a full boil. I have had great success with partial boils and big ipa's. I did a surly furious clone a while back and have it kegged and its very delicious and very hippy.
I wouldn't stress too much on a full boil if it is not possible... sometimes you need to work w/ what you have. Do a partial boil w/ what you have listed. I might drop some of the carapils since even the lightest extracts have a small % of it 'built in.' Maybe go w/ 4oz instead of 8oz. Add 2 lbs of the extract at the beginning of the boil and the rest at the end (5min from end of boil). This will help w/ your hop utilization. A 60min boil is not a bad idea for extract, just load up on hops along the way. A 2-stage dry hop will definitely help, do the initial dry hop in primary for 5 days, then rack to a secondary for the 2nd stage (again, 5 days). Should be delicious and plenty hoppy, regardless of whether or not it is a 'perfect clone' of Pliny.
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Old 01-22-2013, 02:30 PM   #14
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Unnecessary, condescending and certainly not helpful.

Again, unnecessary.
Well that's just like, your opinion, man.

You strike me as someone who is content with mediocrity. That's fine. But I'm trying to help the OP out, not you.
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Well that's just like, your opinion, man.

You strike me as someone who is content with mediocrity. That's fine. But I'm trying to help the OP out, not you.
Not at all, I just feel like wording things differently might be more helpful and less condescending. The dude abides.
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It was not exactly my goal to write things in a way that suited your personal opinion of constructive advice. Sorry.

I don't see how stating the obvious facts that I have gained from experience and saving beginner brewers from the same mistakes is condescending. You might just have a chip on your shoulder. The only thing condescending I wrote was when I mentioned that you may be content with mediocrity. But then again, you called me out first so there's that.

Will he have a drinkable extract IIPA with a partial boil, no yeast starter, unnecessary carapils, and a 90 minute boil of extract? Sure. Will it be great or anything at all like PtE?? Nope.

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Old 01-22-2013, 03:02 PM   #17
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I will post my partial mash clone in a bit and you can make tweaks and go from there.
http://hopville.com/recipe/1676820

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... sometimes you need to work w/ what you have.
Two schools of thought on the ability to do a full volume boil:

1) You have to work with what you have. (LIMITED)
2) Where there's a will there's a way. (SKY'S THE LIMIT)

Do some research and find ways to brew without topping off. That way you're not so limited. Dual kettles, borrowing a larger kettle for a day, buying a new kettle, straddling two burners at once... whatever gets you there. Your beers will be better, trust me.
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I would like to try the recipe that I have but do a 60 min boil. If I would be better off using something in place of the carapils I will. Yes I am new and do need help. Do I brew beer as good as you, no I prob do not and am prob not even close but I have brewed some very good very balanced ipa's thus far. This recipe is going to be extract with specialty grains, I have never came up with my own recipe. This was my first attempt at using a recipe and kinda just trying to make it my own. If you guys would just tell me what grains I should use for my steep and my correct dme, I will try and work in my own little hop schedule amounts and timing. Thanks alto for all the great advice ahead of time guys!

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I am doing a 10G batch, do I double the hop additions or do the scale up differently?

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