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Old 12-06-2009, 12:26 AM   #1
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Over Thanksgiving dinner drinking some homebrew, my dad and I started discussing ale vs. lager. He loves Sam Adams Boston Lager and claims it is so smooth because it is a lager. I yelled BS and said I can make an ALE version of Sam Adams Boston Lager that he wouldn't be able to taste the difference. Anyone have a recipe for an all-grain batch of Sam Adams Boston Lager as an ALE? THANKS!


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Old 12-06-2009, 12:29 AM   #2
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Why don't you just make a lager version of Sam Adams Boston lager? Lagering is easy.
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Old 12-06-2009, 12:37 AM   #3
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Why don't you just make a lager version of Sam Adams Boston lager? Lagering is easy.
I could, but that's not the point of the bet. I want to prove that he can't taste the difference between an ale and a lager.
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Old 12-06-2009, 12:40 AM   #4
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Good luck, when you clone it as an ale let me know, I think it will be very tough, getting that clean malty lager taste will be tough with ale yeast.
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I guess the desire to one-up the old man will be a good motivator. Good luck also.
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Old 12-06-2009, 12:47 AM   #6
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You could always lager it and not tell him.
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Old 12-06-2009, 12:58 AM   #7
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I could, but that's not the point of the bet. I want to prove that he can't taste the difference between an ale and a lager.
If you can do this, you'll probably win money from whoever you bet on this forum, too! I can make some pretty good ales with neutral yeast and ferment at very low range for ales, and still can't make it exactly like a lager. My "Fizzy Yellow Beer" is well liked by BMC drinkers, but even they will tell you that it's not a lager. Way too much ale characteristic for a lager.

A well made lager will not taste like an ale. And a well made ale will not taste like a lager.
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Old 12-06-2009, 01:10 AM   #8
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Believe me. It has to be close but not a dead on. Let's try this way... What would be the best yeast strain that could mimic that malty taste of Sam? I can get the grain bill pretty close and the hops pretty close.
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Beertools has several Boston lager clones. Just look through them and brew with safale US-05, I would go with two packs to mimic the overpitching of commercial beers, and try to ferment at the lowest end of the temp range for the yeast you can get to.

http://www.beertools.com/html/recipe.php?style=none&category=none&grain=none&ext ract=none&adjunct=none&hop=none&text=Boston+Lager& sort=recent&order=d

This one claims to have gotten the ingredients or recipe from SA>

http://www.angelfire.com/pa/beerandweather/sablg.html
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...brew with safale US-05, I would go with two packs to mimic the overpitching of commercial beers, and try to ferment at the lowest end of the temp range for the yeast you can get to.
Any Wyeast or White Labs equivelant to that? Thanks for you help everyone!


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