piraat ale recipe

brinker90 · 10-22-2006, 05:08 PM

I tried Piraat Ale a few days ago and I have to say that it is my new all time favorite. I was told that Gulden Draak, made by the same company, was even better, but have not tried it yet. Does anybody have a clone extract recipe for either of these? Thanks.

Cregar · 10-22-2006, 05:33 PM

Found this on another site:

Piraat Clone

11 lbs. Plain Extra-Light DME
1½ lbs. Belgian Clear Candi Sugar
8 oz. Crystal Malt 20°L
4 oz. Belgian Cara-Vienne Malt
4 oz. Belgian Aromatic Malt
1 oz. Brewers Gold 60 minutes
1 oz. Styrian Goldings 15 minutes
½ oz. Styrian Goldings 5 minutes
½ tsp. ground coriander 15 minutes
½ tsp. ground coriander 5 minutes
1 tsp. Sweet orange peel 5 minutes
1 tsp. Irish moss 15 minutes
1 pkg. Wyeast 3787 Trappist high gravity yeast

Steep specialty grains for 30 minutes @ 150°F.
Keep fermentation around 68-70°F.
Prime with 1½ cup wheat DME.
The finished volume is: 6 gallons
Technical file for Piraat 9%:
9 % alcohol by volume, 18.5° Plato
Amber colored beer with secondary fermentation in the bottle or in the keg.
Shelf life: at least 2 years after bottling date.

OG: 1.096
FG: 1.024
SRM: ~11
IBU: 9
ABV: 9.3%

brinker90 · 10-23-2006, 02:47 AM

Thanks Cregar, I will give this a try.

EvilTOJ · 10-23-2006, 03:57 AM

Now all we need is a Ninjaa Clone...

B-Dub · 09-01-2008, 05:24 AM

Bump

brinker90, how did the beer turn out? Any new recipes for it?

Thanks

**beerthirty** · 09-11-2008, 02:06 AM

I have tried Piraat and Gulden Draak. While the GD is a very clean tasting and delicious beer the Piraat has so much more depth of flavor, it is simply divine. The book Clone Brews has both recipes in extract, mini mash and AG versions. The Piraat recipe looks right when plugged into beersmith but the GD is lacking ABV. I will try this weekend to put the recipes out for you.

portlandbeergeek · 01-23-2009, 07:06 PM

Bump again....

Beerthirty, did you brew this? I'm looking through Clone Brews right now trying to decide what to brew this weekend. I've seen this same Piraat recipe on a few threads, but nobody's said how the beer turned out! If there's any tweaks you would suggest, i'd love to hear them. Also, the mash calls for 150*, but I was planning on 148* because if I recall Piraat is pretty lean. That coupled with the fact that every single infusion mash in this book is 150*, makes me wonder just how accurate their mash suggestions are.

**Revvy** · 01-23-2009, 07:09 PM

Here you'll find some good info in my thread...http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/piraat-belgium-tripel-ipa-clone-help-arrgh-73975/

**beerthirty** · 04-24-2009, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by portlandbeergeek

Bump again....

Beerthirty, did you brew this? I'm looking through Clone Brews right now trying to decide what to brew this weekend. I've seen this same Piraat recipe on a few threads, but nobody's said how the beer turned out! If there's any tweaks you would suggest, i'd love to hear them. Also, the mash calls for 150*, but I was planning on 148* because if I recall Piraat is pretty lean. That coupled with the fact that every single infusion mash in this book is 150*, makes me wonder just how accurate their mash suggestions are.

Sorry missed the thread, Yes I did brew it. I had some minor difficulties. The batch was split between 2 buckets for fermentation. One finished at 1.022 IIRC. the other stuck at 1.034. The one that finished tasted very nice going into the keg. I took the cake from the finished batch and mixed it into the stuck one and raised the temp to 80* to try to get it to finish. It dropped to 1.026 and stayed there. By the time the second batch was kegged and carbed I had already drank the first batch.

It was delicious. The second batch was good but nowhere near what the first batch was. I'm brewing a modified version of this again May 2nd. The changes I plan on making are (previous in parenthis) mash at 147* for 75 min(150* for 60), grist ratio 1.33(1.25), 90 min boil(75), sugar addition to the primary at hi krausen(last 15 min of boil), ramped ferment beginning at 64*(stationary at 68*), slurry from 1 gallon starter(slurry from 1/2G), combo 500 and 530 yeast(530).
These are a lot of changes and I'm not sure how it will come out. I have been researching the various ways to drive the FG down and decided to try all of them. My therory is, lower mash- less complex fermentables, thinner mash- more attuation, longer time- more complete conversion, sugar addition- less shock to yeast trying to start in a high grav wort, ramped ferment- less ester production with a better chance of finishing low, dual yeast- more complex flavor profile that remains subtle.
One keg will be put back for long term aging, 12 months. After reading Brew like a Monk most of those beers are not aged for longer than 3 months, so I doubt the other keg will last more than 6 months. I will post again after brew day.

**Revvy** · 04-24-2009, 01:51 PM

Is that the batches you sent me Thirty?

Portland, he sent me some samples knowing that I love Piraat, and I thought the were fantastic beers.