Pilsner with ale yeast....

tireater · 04-27-2009, 04:38 PM

I'm looking for a Pilsner receipe that I can make with ale yeast and ferment at 68...Anyone got one? Thanks

**Saccharomyces** · 04-27-2009, 04:55 PM

I'm planning on brewing a double-D Pils ale this summer for my July 4th brew, and pitching a big starter of Wyeast American Ale II into it.

I haven't brewed this yet so usual disclaimers that it might suck

but here's what I'm brewing ...

8# German Pils (95%)
6 oz German Munich, 9L (5%)
3 oz Saaz 2.7% AA, 30'
2 oz Saaz 2.7% AA, 10'
1 oz Saaz DH

Mash in at 131*F, decoct to 147*F for beta rest, decoct to 158*F for alpha rest.

I like Saaz hops... a LOT... so I decided to go for the hop bursting for loads of Saaz flavor and aroma.

Beerrific · 04-27-2009, 04:56 PM

Simple Pils recipe:

OG:1.050, 6 gallons at the end of the boil
10.5lbs Germna Pilsner Malt
Mash 149F for 1 hour.

Boil 90 minutes.
German Hallertauer, 4%:
2.0oz at 60 minutes
0.5oz at 15 minutes
0.5oz at 0 minutes

So really, it is not going to be a Pils without lager yeast, but you can get close with an ale yeast (or call it a Blond is anyone cares that much). A couple options depending on you situation:
-Kolsch yeast, big starter, ferment in the low 60s
-WLP001 or Wyeast 1056, big starter, ferment at the lower end of the suggested range
-US-05, pitch 1 pack of rehydrated yeast, ferment low

**GilaMinumBeer** · 04-27-2009, 04:57 PM

Look at any Kolsch recipe.

jeansberg · 04-27-2009, 05:44 PM

I actually have kind of a Budvar Pilsner clone cold crashing right now. I don't have access to the recipe right now, but the ingredients were:

Quote:

Light DME
Carapils/Dextrine
Saaz Hops
Wyeast American Ale yeast

I matched color, bitterness and ABV to Budvar in beersmith, shooting for the same kind of fresh hop aroma. Will probably taste more like an American pale ale, though.

Boondoggie · 04-27-2009, 05:56 PM

I've got NothernBrewer's "Patersbier" going right now, pretty much a a Pilsner made with a belgian ale yeast...

**Malticulous** · 04-27-2009, 06:02 PM

Your K-97 would be close. You could probably pull it off with Argentine Cascades just don't go overboard. All Pisner (maybe some carapils.)

tireater · 04-27-2009, 06:29 PM

How about beerrific receipe with 10.5 lbs german pilsner malt
Mash at 148 for I hour with Y-97...
What Arg. Cascade schedule would you suggest...I got them CHEAP! Thanks

**Malticulous** · 04-27-2009, 07:09 PM

They taste a lot like Saaz. Assuming 3.2 AA 2oz at 60 and .5 oz at 15.
hopville . "Fake Pils" KÃ¶lsch Recipe

Mash low (148-150) for 90 min, and boil for 90 min. Remember you will need an extra half gallon or so run off for the 90 min boil. You should get pretty good efficiency. Carb it on the high side. A pound of Munich and/or half pound carapils could be a nice touch.

tireater · 04-27-2009, 07:54 PM

Thanks alot....my brain is spinning with the possibilities...