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Old 04-19-2014, 05:08 AM   #11
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Maybe these are not a good example. I bought a pound. Fuggles and EKG are much more floral than these that I got. All the other hops I got from HopsDirect have been great.

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Old 04-26-2014, 07:18 PM   #12
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I'm using them in a chocolate rye foreign stout. FWH Bittering, and a -15 addition. Tastes great. Not sure if I'd dry hop heavily with these. Only dry hop I tried was with other hops as well so can't really say.

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Old 04-28-2014, 05:02 AM   #13
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I gave my UK Phoenix dry hopped beer on tap another taste today. This may be the first beer I ever dump. But I'll wait until the keg is needed and see if it mellows.

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Old 04-28-2014, 12:41 PM   #14
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Had a pound of these years ago.....cheap. Had good AA% at 9. Used it in English styled brews- posters, stouts, browns, ESB, English IPA. When I was using it, there wasn't much info out there (or other people using it). Really only thing I was able to find was it is similar to Challenger and had some blackberry undertones. So I primarily used it as a bittering hop. Beers turned out fine. Then started using it for flavor and aroma (however in conjunction with my other English standards- kent holdings/ fuggles). I can't remember having any issues with any of the beers. I don't remember using more than 1 1/2-2 oz per 5 gallon batch though. It's been awhile, but if I recall- it did have a fruity (berry) even sweet taste and aroma and was mildly spivey (maybe this is what people are calling "sharp"). Very complimentary of English styled ale. In fact when paired with EKG, I recall a candy like sweetness that was very good.
My advice. Use it. Stick with a darker English ale- particularly a brown first. Low IBUs, and mix it with fuggle and/or EKG at different points so at least half hops are Phoenix.

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Old 05-24-2014, 03:26 PM   #15
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Maybe mine were bad. They went in the trash. I am sure it was not the wort, I tried the hops in two brews.


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