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Old 03-06-2009, 08:15 PM   #1
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Default Phat tire yeast???

Okay I'm sure this has been talked to death but what available yeast is closest to the one New Belgium uses. To me it tastes way more neutral than any Belgian strain I've ever tasted. To me NB taste like it is fermented with a slightly fruity british ale yeast fermented on the cold side to reduce yeast flavor.

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Old 03-06-2009, 09:23 PM   #2
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Wyeast 1056 is what i use.

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Old 03-07-2009, 05:40 PM   #3
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Wyeast 1056 is what i use.

So its really not a Belgian per se. I seem to recall reading that they claimed to use a Belgian strain but like I said before, I've never tasted a Belgian that tastes that clean before. Of course I haven't tried them all. Just curious.

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Old 03-07-2009, 05:45 PM   #4
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Okay, I'll admit I was lazy! I should have done a search to begin with. The guy from AHS said in a post that the head brewer at NB said it was not a Belgian strain. Well my palate told me that when i drank it but his post confirmed it.

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I used K-97 in my clone, had many homebrewers who tasted it compliment the choice. It's a bit more estery than what New Belgium uses, but I like it.

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Old 03-08-2009, 02:15 PM   #6
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Okay I'm sure this has been talked to death but what available yeast is closest to the one New Belgium uses. To me it tastes way more neutral than any Belgian strain I've ever tasted. To me NB taste like it is fermented with a slightly fruity british ale yeast fermented on the cold side to reduce yeast flavor.

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Yea, it's definitely not a Belgian strain, which is one of the reasons I am not too fond of their beers. My guess is it's probably a mutation of 1056.

Incidentally, years ago when we couldn't get Fat Tire here in Illinois, I found a clone recipe and brewed it up. I used abbey ale yeast. Turned out great! A very nice Belgian pale ale. When I did finally taste the real Fat Tire I was very disappointed and remember thinking "my version is way better".

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Old 03-08-2009, 06:02 PM   #7
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It's been a while since I had Fat Tire since it's not sold in this area, but what I had in Ft. Collins was pretty damn tasty. Nothing mindblowing, but a very nice everyday beer.

I am not sure I would use 1056 when brewing this beer. The Alt yeast K-97 is an interesting choice that sounds like it might work well. I'd probably use 1272 on my first attempt.

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I used Wyeast 1214

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I used Wyeast 1214

I used this on what was supposed to be a Dubbel but it turned out to be a strong golden ale which I'm not crazy about. I really do not like chimay which is what 1214 is if I'm not mistaken. You might have wound up w/ a good Belgian w/ that yeast but nothing like NB Phat Tire.

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Wyeast 1056 is what i use.
I have heard that 1056 and US-05 are basically the same yeast. US-05 is just the dry version of 1056.

I am planning a Phat Tire clone and plan to use US-05.
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