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Old 04-07-2008, 08:05 PM   #21
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I tried it per their directions of mixing 2T powder to 1T water and it was just like the real thing. The hydrometer sample sure tasted and smelled like PB, actually I am hoping it will mellow with age.

It's been 2 weeks, maybe I will rack it this week to secondarys and taste it again. Any one think that just racking over cocoa will work?
I think you'll be fine with the cocoa. I've been studying up on some of the chocolate stout threads here and people seem to have had good results with cocoa powder as well as with actual chocolate pieces (semisweet or unsweetened). The general approach is to rack the beer over this chocolate in the secondary.
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Old 04-08-2008, 01:30 AM   #22
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I am going to give this a try in a few weeks, good find on the powdered pb.

Here is my current recipe that I just threw together for it.

BeerSmith Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: Chocolate Peanut Butter Stout
Brewer: Christopher
Asst Brewer: Erica
Style: American Stout
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 5.50 gal
Boil Size: 7.00 gal
Estimated OG: 1.060 SG
Estimated Color: 35.6 SRM
Estimated IBU: 35.4 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
11.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 81.48 %
1.00 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 7.41 %
1.00 lb Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 7.41 %
0.50 lb Roasted Barley (300.0 SRM) Grain 3.70 %
1.00 oz Magnum [13.00 %] (60 min) Hops 35.4 IBU
4 oz Powdered Peanut Butter (Boil 5.0 min) Misc
6 oz Hershey's Cocoa Powder (Boil 5.0 min) Misc


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Full Body, Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 13.50 lb
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Single Infusion, Full Body, Batch Sparge
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
60 min Mash In Add 16.88 qt of water at 164.8 F 153.0 F

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I am going to give this a try in a few weeks, good find on the powdered pb.

Here is my current recipe that I just threw together for it.
Looks tasty. Hops maybe a little bit heavy at 35 IBU, but maybe the whole deal is going to be sweet enough to deal with it.

For the PB, in the recipe I've been considering I was going to use the whole jar of the bells powdered PB ... if I recall it's close to 7 oz. That was based entirely on the fact that the PB beer recipes I've seen used a pound and bells says that their 7oz (ish) jar is equivalent to a standard 18 oz jar of regular pb.

I've also been looking at all of the pb recipes as well as stout recipes using chocolate and thinking about the best way to add these. For the chocolate/cocoa, the blended consensus seems to be to add some toward the end of the boil and some in the secondary. Since a lot of what we want from the pb and chocolate is aromatic/esters and these might be boiled out or fermented out in primary, adding at least part of them in secondary makes sense to me (much like fruit).

I'm still debating making this for my batch-after-next. I want to do a stout, but since I'm going to be do doing a southern pecan (brown ale) type clone next, I'm not sure I want to go completely "nuts". Peanut butter cup might have to wait.

In any case I'd be very interested to hear how this turns out. If my pecan turns out perhaps we can arrange a swap.
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Agreed on the IBUs, probably gonna drop it down a bit.

Edit: My 4oz is based on the fact that he seems to think the 6.5oz (entire jar) was a bit heavy tasting, though this was only in the secondary. I figure if it tastes a little light in peanut butter, I could try adding it to taste after it is done fermenting.

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Agreed on the IBUs, probably gonna drop it down a bit.

Edit: My 4oz is based on the fact that he seems to think the 6.5oz (entire jar) was a bit heavy tasting, though this was only in the secondary. I figure if it tastes a little light in peanut butter, I could try adding it to taste after it is done fermenting.
Actually maybe they're not so high after all (the IBUs). I took a look at the recipe I was considering starting with for my pb cup stout and it's got 35 as well. It's from this board's z987k's chocolate stout recipe:


10lbs 2row
2lbs chocolate malt
.5lb caraffa III
.5lb CaraPils
1lb lactose
1oz Warrior 35mins (= 35 IBU)

4oz bakers chocolate at the end of the boil
4oz semi-sweet chocolate in the secondary

I'm pretty sure that my LHBS does not carry caraffa malt so have to find a substitute for that.

I was planning on matching my PB with the chocolate -- half a jar of the powdered at end of boil and half in the secondary. Probably will mix with water and heat to 130+ for 10 minutes or so to semi-pasteurize. Might also opt to use cocoa nibs instead of chocolate.
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Today 3.5 weeks later I kegged 5G and racked the other 5G over 4oz of the fat free cocoa.
It smells great and I tasted the hydrometer sample and you can taste the peanut butter but its not over the top, rather subtle but you know its in there. I chilled another sample and will try that later when its cold. Very pleased so far, there was just a tiny bit of oil floating on the surface I put almost 11G into the primary so I just left the oily stuff behind.

I will taste this in a week and see how the chocolate is coming through. I am thinking a week or two should be enough time.

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thanks for the update. sounds like good results so far.

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any updates on how it tasted after chilling and carbing it?

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It tastes great but not enough peanut butter, Would use 2 jars per 5 gal next time, its really barely noticeable. I have the second 5 gallons still sitting on some cocoa.

If you dont tell people it has PB in it most of them would never notice it.

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Things like this are just one of many reasons this is the best online community ever!

Thanks SuperiorBrew!!!
I drink to thy good health and toast thee!!!

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