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Old 06-16-2008, 05:48 AM   #1
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I am trying to brew another pale ale recipe, and ran across this recipe and thought it might be good. And I already have half of the ingredients on hand.

Widmer Hop Jack Clone
(5 gallons, extract with grains)
Ingredients

2.00 lb Light Dry Extract (8.0 SRM) Dry Extract 23.39 %
3.30 lb Pale Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 38.60 %
1.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 17.54 %
1.00 lb Munich Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 11.70 %
0.50 lb Vienna Malt (3.5 SRM) Grain 5.85 %
0.25 lb Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 2.92 %
0.50 oz Williamette [4.90 %] (60 min) Hops 7.9 IBU
0.75 oz Cascade [8.30 %] (60 min) Hops 20.1 IBU
1.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (10 min) Hops 6.4 IBU
0.50 oz Centennial [9.30 %] (2 min) Hops 1.3 IBU
0.50 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (2 min) Hops 0.7 IBU
1.00 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 min) Misc

1 Pkgs California Ale (White Labs #WLP001)

Est Original Gravity: 1.045 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1.010 SG
Bitterness: 36.4 IBU
Est Color: 12.8 SRM Color: Color

The only thing I can see is that the Original Gravity is low. What do you guys think?

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Old 06-16-2008, 10:58 AM   #2
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OG and IBU are on the lower end of the BJCP style parameters. Depends on what you want, I guess.

More technically, a pound and a half of crystal malt in 5 gallons is a bit much, IMO, and risks making the beer cloyingly caramelly. Never made the recipe, though, so I can't speak definitively.

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Old 06-16-2008, 07:23 PM   #3
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I am trying to brew another pale ale recipe, and ran across this recipe and thought it might be good. And I already have half of the ingredients on hand.

Widmer Hop Jack Clone
(5 gallons, extract with grains)
Ingredients

2.00 lb Light Dry Extract (8.0 SRM) Dry Extract 23.39 %
3.30 lb Pale Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 38.60 %
1.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 17.54 %
1.00 lb Munich Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 11.70 %
0.50 lb Vienna Malt (3.5 SRM) Grain 5.85 %
0.25 lb Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 2.92 %
0.50 oz Williamette [4.90 %] (60 min) Hops 7.9 IBU
0.75 oz Cascade [8.30 %] (60 min) Hops 20.1 IBU
1.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (10 min) Hops 6.4 IBU
0.50 oz Centennial [9.30 %] (2 min) Hops 1.3 IBU
0.50 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (2 min) Hops 0.7 IBU
1.00 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 min) Misc

1 Pkgs California Ale (White Labs #WLP001)

Est Original Gravity: 1.045 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1.010 SG
Bitterness: 36.4 IBU
Est Color: 12.8 SRM Color: Color

The only thing I can see is that the Original Gravity is low. What do you guys think?
Um, wow, that's a lot of ingredients for a pale ale.

Up front, It looks fine in its current capacity. +1 on the "possibly too much Caramel malt".

I would ask, though, what you have in stock and what you don't? You may have the ingredients right now to make a good Pale Ale without blowing the budget.

Also, still being the frugal one, I'd switch up the hop schedule a bit. Assuming that you're opening new 1 oz. packages and will have some leftovers (which I've had terrible luck with keeping for an extended period of time), the following may be up your alley:

.5 oz. Centennial (60 Min)
.75 oz. Cascade (60 Min)
.5 oz. Cascade (20 min)
.5 oz Cascade 10 min
.5 oz Centennial 2 min
.25 oz cascade 2 min

That zero's out your leftovers. Just a thought. Take it or leave it. You could probably go even less complicated and do an ounce of Centennial at 60 min and then a half ounce of cascade at 10 min and 2 min respectively and achieve a similar hop character, IMO, and same some cash, even more so, save some hops.

I'm not at home, so I can't get you the correct IBUs.

Cheers,
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