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Battery_BreweryNJ · 06-02-2008, 02:30 AM

Has anyone ever used Pacific Jem hops? I know that they come from New Zealand.

**Gabe** · 06-02-2008, 05:38 AM

Yes I have, and I don't plan on using them again. The Pac Jems that I had were a high AA% and came through as very bitter. I've brewed with them 3 separate times and all 3 times my batches tasted a little on the bitter side. Be careful with those.

I give the hop a 2 on the scale.I also didn't get any of the supposed Blackberry?!

**pjj2ba** · 06-02-2008, 06:13 PM

I've used them with success and will again. I got the fairly strong berry aroma with a 20 min. addition in a wheat beer. It kinda reminded me of the breakfast cereal Frankenberry. I primarily used them as bitering hops though, typically as a first wort hop. They are potent!

barely · 06-03-2008, 02:46 AM

One of my favorite beers used Pacific Gem.
Hop rate: All Pacific Gem 15% AA
0.75 oz @ 60 min
0.75 oz @ 20 min
0.5 oz @ 5 min
dry hop secondary w/ 1 oz

It was almost too fruity the first few weeks, but mellowed wonderfully.

adam2 · 06-03-2008, 03:26 AM

Ive used them alot and they make a wounderful bittering hop for almost any style. I havnt used it as a flavour/aroma hop as i beleive the high aplha hops are breed for that reason rather than a pleasant flavour aroma. If you want to try a NZ hop thats great for flavour and aroma try Saaz D it has twice the resin content than the normal saaz.

denimglen · 06-03-2008, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by adam2

Ive used them alot and they make a wounderful bittering hop for almost any style. I havnt used it as a flavour/aroma hop as i beleive the high aplha hops are breed for that reason rather than a pleasant flavour aroma. If you want to try a NZ hop thats great for flavour and aroma try Saaz D it has twice the resin content than the normal saaz.

Just so you know if you're looking and can't find them Saaz D is now known as Riwaka and Saaz B is now known as Motueka.

Danek · 06-03-2008, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adam2

If you want to try a NZ hop thats great for flavour and aroma try Saaz D it has twice the resin content than the normal saaz.

I'd also give a big thumbs up to Nelson Sauvin hops, which I believe are also from New Zealand. They have a lovely plummy/kiwi aroma.

**Chriso** · 06-04-2008, 07:06 PM

So far I've had great luck with them, but always in multi-hop beers. I plan to do a single-hop with Pac Gem sometime next month, to really experience its flavor profile.

Battery_BreweryNJ · 06-05-2008, 02:29 AM

thanks for all the input. I made an IPA with the Pac Jem & Columbus for bittering, Cascade for finishing, and im going to dry hop in the 2nd w/more cascade.

**Bearcat Brewmeister** · 06-05-2008, 02:46 AM

I have used them in a Scottish ale as a bittering hop - only 0.25 ounces in 5 gallons - and another 0.25 ounces at 20 minutes to go. The blackberry really comes through and it fits the style well. I have heard that many brewers in the UK are using these hops because with their natural disease resistance, they do not need any pesticides, and pesticide-free ingredients in beer are becoming a popular idea in parts of the UK from what I have read.