Originally Posted by smokinghole
Okay I prematurely opened a bottle tonight. The flavor of the recipe I brewed is OUTSTANDING as a non brett beer right now. Sure there's brett in there but it hasn't even had a chance to make its presence known. I don't know how much like a fresh Orval this is, but it is down right tasty. The carbonation is on the low side right now but that's okay because as the brett attenuates further in the bottle it will continue to climb.
The hops are what is really pleasing me right now. I think I really hit the hop flavor with the strisselspalt and serebrianka. I remember reading somewhere recently that they were using strisselspalt and since I had some on hand I used them. Plus I did a split dry hop between strisselspalt and stryian golding just before bottling. It's a great brew even if you decide to not do the brett.
keep us posted.. orval is one of my faves and if i were to brew a clone i'd start from your recipe... orval is reportedly bottled with brett but there's no reason you can't "secondary" with brett as i like to ignore bottles (i'm tired of putting bottles in my fridge to slow them down)... i'd go c.. or b at the most... not that much brett in it imo but it does have that woody/dry brett characteristic to it fo'sho... the 5 volumes is insane imo tho - no way it winds up there... but i think bottling at 1.5 with brett added is perfect... orval isn't high volume at all (unless the 1,000 bottles i've had have been off which i guess would be possible).... i'm curious as to where the carb finishes off and what brett strain you used... taste wise i think you're there from the looks of it.
with permission i'm going to steal this - i've got a vial of brett c waiting to be tossed in something and this looks like the perfect candidate..
i also have a wild brett strain saved right now that might be a good "local" orval... okay - just changed my mind... local/wild/orval clone coming up! been trying to find a place to use my wild yeast and this is it...