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Old 01-24-2008, 03:31 AM   #1
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I am relatively new to beer making and i apologize if this is a common topic but do any of you grow your own hops indoors organically i have been into indoor vegetable gardening for years and was curious if i could combine this skill to make an incredible beer

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Old 01-24-2008, 03:51 AM   #2
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Interesting idea (and no, it definitely is not a common topic). I have a growing room downstairs but I don't think I could grow a 20' to 40' vine that requires full sun to produce. Do you have that many grow lights? Also, hops need a ton of root space. I believe someone mentioned a tap root that went to double digits in length. It's your space and I'd never tell anyone not to try to grow something but I think you will be in for a challenge. If you do it, let us know how it turns out.

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Hops need massive amounts of space, both for the roots and the bine. They also need 12-16 hours of direct sunlight a day. This is three months growth:



Although it's a bit difficult to see, almost all of the cones are on the top third of the bines. And each plant in this photo has four bines.

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Hops need massive amounts of space, both for the roots and the bine. They also need 12-16 hours of direct sunlight a day. This is three months growth:
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+1...if you could actually see the root system of an average age hop plant, you'd realize why they need so much room...
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Old 01-24-2008, 04:30 PM   #5
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what about force flowering the plant and lst or scrog the vine if you grow something outdoors of course its going to be way larger by cultivating indoors you can cut the veg time down so you dont end up with a 20ft plant and you have to root manage and manage the canopy correctly i think a 4ft by 4ft scrog could hold a 10 or 15 foot plant easily

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Can you translate your last to non-organic?

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check out yahoo's grow-hops group:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Grow-Hops/

i'm interested in trying my hand at growing hops this spring, although probably outdoors.

as for indoor growing, you probably couldn't optimize a plant's yield, but with the right advice and planning you might be able to get a pretty good crop indoors.

there's at least one other plant in the same family as hops that can, i hear, be grown indoors to quite a bit of success. we're not supposed to talk about that one though, so you're on your own as far as research.

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SCROG is short for Screen of Green.

There are two mass production types of indoor growing (used a lot by MJ growers who know what they are doing). Sea of Green is one. Screen of Green is the other.

In Sea of Green, you use a maximum density of small plants to fill the space below a lamp. You only let them go in the vegetative (growth) state for a short time from a rooted cutting before you switch them to flowering state. That way you get short plants and the light reaches a greater percentage of the flowering area, and gives better yield than big plants that were left in the vegetative state for a longer time.

SCROG uses a screen over the top of your plants. You train them all over the underside if the screen to maintain a flat vegetative surface. The screen holds them down. When you go to flowering stage, you let the plant grow through the screen. Another very efficient and effective way to maximize yield and lighting.

I've been wondering about doing this myself. Has anybody here rooted cutting from hops?
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thanks for the explanation mr x im sure you can root a cutting of hops the are much harder plants to clone but im sure there is a technique suitable for hops i do not see a problem cultivating them indoors im going to give it a shot using a 1000w hps or cmh and a 4ft by 4ft screen all organic

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thanks for the explanation mr x im sure you can root a cutting of hops the are much harder plants to clone but im sure there is a technique suitable for hops i do not see a problem cultivating them indoors im going to give it a shot using a 1000w hps or cmh and a 4ft by 4ft screen all organic
What else do you grow indoors?
I have been considering a greenhouse or a 'sunroom' off the side of the house for several years, herbs, ferns, bromilliads, and orchids. Right now the orchids are in the house, and the rest is non-existent.

I had a friend who did a lot of hydroponic in a big greenhouse in Fla. and went around to high end restaurants selling the stuff. Heirloom tomatoes, herbs, baby greens, etc.

What kind of power bill is associated with a 1Kw light, or perhaps several?
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