Hi, folks. I really want to make this beer, but I'd have to use extract instead of Maris Otter. The problem is that Beersmith is telling me it's going to be MUCH lighter than what it's supposed to be. Part of the issue may be to do with the SRM of the extract and the chocolate malt that's available to me. I believe Munton's is 4.2, or so, whereas Orfy is listing 8.0 for "light extract" on the recipe. Also, the darkest chocolate malt that seems to be available from my usual sources is around 450. Orfy insists that this should be a dark beer, not an amber colored one, so I'm inclined to see this as a real problem. Any thoughts? Has anyone made this with extract? I've looked over the original thread (or about 20 of the 30 pages of responses, anyway), and no one seems to be addressing this issue. Thx!