I ordered 6 varieties of yeast from both White Labs and Wyeast (Wyeast 3068, 1318 and 1214, White Labs WLP022 Essex Ale, WLP051 California V and WLP850 Copenhagen yeast for a friend) and some Nelson Sauvin hops from New Zealand. Order arrived in great shape, quickly, and without any customs charge. So that's the yeast order to last me until the fall (along with the yeast I already have).
For any folks in Europe looking for a great selection of both White Labs and Wyeast and also for a lot of those more obscure British hops like Progress and Northdown they have all of that stuff. And their customer service is great in my experience, though this is only my second order.
Oh, and while it's not as cheap as the States, it's not so bad. The Wyeast packs are only propagators though. Each yeast was around 5.90 pounds. The shipping was under 6 pounds, the whole order 47 pounds for 6 varieties of yeast and 100 grams of hops. If you order heavier stuff the shipping gets crazy, but for hops and yeast they're fantastic.
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Last edited by MattHollingsworth; 03-17-2010 at 12:19 PM.
That's great you found a good place to order from. Most of us in the States have no idea what you paid for everything, or how much you recieved. What does 1 pound = in US dollars? Also grams vs oz? I could look it up, but I'm sure some on this board knows the anwser in there head.
That's great you found a good place to order from. Most of us in the States have no idea what you paid for everything, or how much you recieved. What does 1 pound = in US dollars? Also grams vs oz? I could look it up, but I'm sure some on this board knows the anwser in there head.
Hahaha! Yeah, that's funny. I see people posting things constantly which basically require someone else to do the Googling for them. No offense intended to the above poster, BTW.
That order translated to $70.75, counting shipping, for all that yeast and hops. 100 grams is about 3.5 ounces of hops. So, 3 Wyeast *Propagator* packs, 3 White Labs vials and about 3.5 ounces of hops for nearly $71. I don't know what yeast goes for in the States these days though. But the main point was that the shipping wasn't so bad, it arrived safe and quickly, no customs were charged, and they have a fabulous selection of yeast and hops, none of which are available inside Croatia with the exception of Styrian Goldings hops.
Hey, if you're in Croatia, you should try these guys at Brouwland. They are in Belgium and have pretty decent prices. I ordered 22 KG of malt and had it shipped to Paris relatively cheaply. The malt was about $1/pound and shipping was only 12 euros to my door. It is the best deal I have found so far. I order some Better Bottles from the Hop and Grape folks and I was pleased with their service. But, their prices are not the best. Good luck!
Hey, if you're in Croatia, you should try these guys at Brouwland. They are in Belgium and have pretty decent prices. I ordered 22 KG of malt and had it shipped to Paris relatively cheaply. The malt was about $1/pound and shipping was only 12 euros to my door. It is the best deal I have found so far. I order some Better Bottles from the Hop and Grape folks and I was pleased with their service. But, their prices are not the best. Good luck!
I order from Brouwland regularly. But for me in Croatia, their shipping is a ripoff. If I order one pack of dry yeast(which I wouldn't do, obviously), the shipping is 25 euros minimum. They seem to always add 10 euros to my shipping bill for "handling". When I've ordered before, for instance, I can SEE the actual shipping on the package and they add 10 euros to it (Just under $14 American). I asked them about this and they said it's a handling charge, which I think is bull****. It's because there's no competition here. Not enough of these shops. So they can get away with it. Shops in the States are more competitive and you can get much better deals. And I've certainly never had any other shop anywhere charge me a handling charge.
So, I tend to order from them when I have a larger amount of stuff I need. The shipping from them is a ripoff every single time though. They have lots of stuff and some great hops that I order. They DO really have a great selection. But I let it build up into a bigger order first. And they don't carry White Labs yeast at all, and they don't have some of the more specialized hops that Hop and Grape have. By comparison, Hop and Grape's shipping is reasonable for a smaller package like I ordered here. Shipping was just under 6 pounds for that, and with Brouwland it would have been at least 25 euros.
You ordered 22 kilos with 12 euros for shipping? Must be nice! I wish it was the same here. I just plugged about that amount into an order I have saved with them and it would cost me 94 euros for shipping that. That, and they take 3 to 5 weeks before they even *send* my package. So I have to order ahead with them. They say it's because I'm in Croatia. They let the order sit, then ship out more than one at a time or some such BS. Means I have to plan pretty far ahead. By comparison, this Hop and Grape order arrived 6 days from ordering.
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Last edited by MattHollingsworth; 03-17-2010 at 11:57 PM.
And, sorry for the rant. I do still order from Brouwland. They have some great stuff. I just don't really like the way they treat me. I'm putting together an order with them now and it's not THAT big and it'll be 40 euros for shipping and I'll probably receive it about a month after I order it. But such is life. I'm glad they exist because if they didn't I wouldn't be able to get some of the stuff they have very easily.