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Old 08-13-2012, 12:30 AM   #1
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Default Orange(less) Wheat; Hop Help

I'm looking to make a hoppy orange wheat, but if possible, I would like to derive the orange flavor from hops only. From what I've Googled, it appears my best bets are Amarillo (resembling tangerines and apricots in my personal experience) and Citra. I've also seen references to Styrian Goldings (really?), Ahtanum, which is sometimes criticized for being too perfumey, Sorachi Ace, which I understand more closely resembles lemon, and Summit, which can also unfortunately come across as onion or garlic.

Here is my recipe-in-progress:

Batch Size (fermenter): 5.50 gal
Bottling Volume: 5.50 gal
Estimated OG: 1.048 SG
Estimated Color: 3.5 SRM
Estimated IBU: 30.3 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 75.3 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
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1 lbs Rice Hulls (0.0 SRM)
5 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM)
3 lbs Wheat - White Malt (Briess) (2.3 SRM)
2 lbs Wheat, Flaked (1.6 SRM)
0.500 oz Styrian Goldings [5.40 %] - Boil 60.0 mi
0.250 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 15.0 min
0.250 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Boil 15.0 min
0.250 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 10.0 min
0.250 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Boil 10.0 min
0.250 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 5.0 min
0.250 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min
0.500 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 0.0 min
0.250 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Boil 0.0 min
1.0 pkg Safale American (DCL/Fermentis #US-05)
1.000 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Day


Does anyone have any thoughts or experience to share?

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Old 08-13-2012, 02:25 AM   #2
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That seems like a pretty solid hop schedule for what you are looking for. Kind of similar to a pale ale, except with 50% wheat. Should be good!

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Old 08-13-2012, 02:54 AM   #3
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I find Centennial is very tangerine-like.

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Thanks for the responses. I'll probably switch out the Styrian Goldings for Centennial and add some Summit for finishing and dry hop while crossing my fingers in hopes that I don't end up with carbonated onion soup.

Edit: Oops, I forgot to ask about a protein rest. At 18% flaked wheat, would this recipe benefit from one? Thanks!

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Old 08-14-2012, 03:58 AM   #5
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Glacier goes very well with Amarillo

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Update:
I didn't quite get the solo orange characteristic I was aiming for, but this is one spectacular beer: mangos, passionfruit, grapefruit, pineapple, and tangerines. This won't last long and is going to be a house favorite.

Type: All Grain
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.25 gal
Boil Time: 90 min
Fermentation: Ale, Single Stage
Brewhouse Efficiency: 74.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency 77.5 %
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1 lbs Rice Hulls (0.0 SRM)
5 lbs Pale Ale Malt 2-Row (Briess) (3.5 SRM)
3 lbs Wheat - White Malt (Briess) (2.3 SRM)
2 lbs Wheat, Flaked (1.6 SRM)
2.0 oz Acidulated (Weyermann) (1.8 SRM)
0.250 oz Centennial [9.70 %] - Boil 60.0 min
0.250 oz Centennial [9.70 %] - Boil 15.0 min
0.250 oz Citra [13.90 %] - Boil 15.0 min
0.250 oz Amarillo Gold [9.30 %] - Boil 10.0 min
0.250 oz Centennial [9.70 %] - Boil 10.0 min
0.250 oz Citra [13.90 %] - Boil 10.0 min
0.250 oz Amarillo Gold [9.30 %] - Boil 5.0 min
0.250 oz Centennial [9.70 %] - Boil 5.0 min
0.250 oz Citra [13.90 %] - Boil 5.0 min
0.250 oz Summit [17.60 %] - Boil 5.0 min
0.250 oz Amarillo Gold [9.30 %] - Boil 0.0 min
0.250 oz Centennial [9.70 %] - Boil 0.0 min
0.250 oz Citra [13.90 %] - Boil 0.0 min
0.250 oz Summit [17.60 %] - Boil 0.0 min
1.8 pkg Safale American (DCL/Fermentis #US-05) [50.275 ml]
0.500 oz Amarillo Gold [9.30 %] - Dry Hop 3.0 Days
0.250 oz Citra [13.90 %] - Dry Hop 3.0 Days
0.250 oz Summit [17.60 %] - Dry Hop 3.0 Days
Beer Profile
Measured Original Gravity: 1.053 SG
Measured Final Gravity: 1.012 SG
Actual Alcohol by Vol: 5.4 %
Bitterness: 42.2 IBUs
Est Color: 4.5 SRM
Mash Temperature: 150.4 F

Note: I pulled the dry hop early because I was concerned that the Summit hops were contributing harsh flavors but those have completely subsided.

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Next time you brew this, you may wish to try some Zythos.

That hop blend throws off major orange notes.

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I just tapped a batch of wheat pale ale that has the most definitive orange flavor I have ever gotten from hops. Pacifica is the hop that provides the orange flavor. They are worth looking into if you want lots of orange.

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Thanks for the suggestions! I'll definitely keep those in mind the next go around. In the meantime:

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