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08-18-2009, 02:26 PM
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Someone else mentioned it, but you definitely want a small amount of Chocolate, Roasted Barley, and maybe Black Patent for your stouts. I also get Pale Chocolate always. Its delish and critical in a couple of my recipes.
I like Special B alot but its pretty close to C120.
If you're going to make many continental beers, you really need some Pilsner malt. A big ol' bag.
Also get a nice high Alpha hop variety. It will go a long way and last a long time for bittering additions. I use Summit in my American Ales (18.5%AA).
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08-18-2009, 02:48 PM
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Have you looked to see if someone sells bulk locally? The shipping online pretty much kills it for dealing with Bulk 2-Row (or other 55lb bags). Most places will charge $20+ per bag to ship, and the guys who do fixed shipping just build it into the grain prices.
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08-18-2009, 02:52 PM
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Places like northern brewer or brewmaster warehouse have a flat shipping rate of ~$7. In bulk at the LHBS is $54 for 50 lb, online it is as low as $43. Once I get a big enough order the shipping fee is worth it.
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08-18-2009, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Synovia
Have you looked to see if someone sells bulk locally? The shipping online pretty much kills it for dealing with Bulk 2-Row (or other 55lb bags). Most places will charge $20+ per bag to ship, and the guys who do fixed shipping just build it into the grain prices.
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Good point, I just checked one of the popular online shops and a 50# bag of 2-row was 59.99. My LHBS sells a 50# bag of 2-row for $45 or so. That $15 is your shipping built into the price.
Best bet is if you know other brewers in your area (Home brew club?) and can get a full pallet order (40 bags IIRC) do a group buy from North Country Malt. Our home brew club does a group buy once or twice a year.
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08-18-2009, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by aeonderdonk
Places like northern brewer or brewmaster warehouse have a flat shipping rate of ~$7, online it is as low as $43.
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You will not find cheap grain and flat shipping at the same place. If its $7 flat shipping, expect to pay $55+ for a bag of 2-row. If its $43 for a bag of 2-row, expect to pay $20+ to ship it.
Now, the flat shipping places tend to have pretty good prices on specialty grain. Crystal 40L (first thing I checked) is $1.35/lb at Brewmasterswarehouse, and I can't get it for lower than about $2.50 a pound here, unless I want to buy a 55lb bag (yeah, right). So, there definitely are some savings to be had online, but its not with bulk base malt.
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08-18-2009, 04:18 PM
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For what it's worth, I buy bulk Maris Otter and Pilsner as my two main base malts. One of my reasons for buying by the 55# bag is that I can get organic malt that way. I also have the advantage of being a reasonably short drive from Mid-Country Malt, so I don't have shipping costs.
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08-18-2009, 05:55 PM
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I've never found a reason to use it. If you're already using crystal malts (carapils is a crystal malt), then you're duplicating. If you're not using crystal malts, and you have a beer unlikely to have good head retention, I guess you could use it. But I almost always use specialty grains in my beers, so don't find it necessary.
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Carapils and Crystal malt aren't the same. Carapils is kilned while crystal malt is roasted. If you eat the kernels they taste different.
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08-18-2009, 07:37 PM
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Good point, I just checked one of the popular online shops and a 50# bag of 2-row was 59.99. My LHBS sells a 50# bag of 2-row for $45 or so. That $15 is your shipping built into the price.
Best bet is if you know other brewers in your area (Home brew club?) and can get a full pallet order (40 bags IIRC) do a group buy from North Country Malt. Our home brew club does a group buy once or twice a year.
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Yeah, looks like you are right on the shipping jacking up actual malt price.
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08-18-2009, 10:22 PM
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I will be the first to admit that there is no free lunch with flat rate shipping, especially with base malts. The price we charge for a sack or 2-row + shipping is certainly not cheap compared to the price of picking it up locally. For specialty malts that you are looking for 5-10 lbs of, then I think we have some great deals to be had.
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08-19-2009, 12:58 AM
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Although it depends on your lhbs, its cheaper by far for me to pay any sort of shipping than pick it up there
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