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Old 09-18-2012, 01:17 PM   #1
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Anyone out there take a stab at a recipe for a clone of Ommegang's limited edition Art of Darkness yet? Had a bottle a few weeks ago and it just about took me to my knees....

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Old 09-18-2012, 04:51 PM   #2
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Can't help you, but that's good to hear. I bought a bottle on a whim and it's hiding in the back of my fridge. How'd it compare to some other solid BDSAs (ex. Rochefort 10)?

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Old 09-18-2012, 05:54 PM   #3
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It's been long enough since I've had anything this dark with a Belgian taste that I can't really compare directly. It was black as night, roasty without being stout-ish, and rolled over the tongue like fresh-melted chocolate infused with nitrogen - all with hints of all the classic spice-and-fruit notes from Ommegang's Belgian yeast throughout.... It's not often I'll crow over a brew like this, but Art of Darkness truly is a work of art!

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Sounds great, thanks for the review! Good luck with the clone.

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Old 09-18-2012, 07:56 PM   #5
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Anyone out there take a stab at a recipe for a clone of Ommegang's limited edition Art of Darkness yet? Had a bottle a few weeks ago and it just about took me to my knees....
visited the brewery while it was in tanks labeled "AOD" and was really excited to try it
although when i did i was very dissapointed, almost astringent and missed most of the "belgian" aspect of it i was looking for.
Ive found that bombers i have from ommegang are 10 times smoother after sitting in the celler even for a month or so

Guess i gotta give it another try!!
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I spoke with the master brewer via one email, that's the only response I was able to get out of him. He tole me to try to harvest the yeast from one of the bottles I have left. I did it about 10 days ago and I now have a very large supply of Ommegang AOD yeast. I am planning to put them in vials to save and make a few attempts at this brew. From what he said, the yeast makes the difference. I am really disappointed it is a limited edition, I cant find anymore bottles.

I am going to make my first attempt on Sunday and would really like some input on what you think I should try for a grain bill. All it says on the bottle is barley and wheat malts with flaked oats.

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Old 09-28-2012, 05:08 PM   #7
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I just found this online, hopefully it is correct. I am going to put something together.

"Malts: Pils, pale, cara crystal, aroma, Midnight Wheat, Cara Pils, flaked oats. Hops: Spalter Select and Styrian Golding. Yeast: Ommegang house yeast. Spices: None"

Hopefully this yeast holds up, its been fun trying to harvest from the bottle.

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I had noticed comments about AoD using the Ommegang house yeast, and from what I've been able to find out, it sounds like they use just the one for all their brews (except perhaps for collaborations). I've been having a hard time finding another bottle of AoD as well - but given the general yeast-reuse recommendations (light batches to darker/flavorful/hoppy batches), might some yeast harvested from Rare Vos or their Wit be a better choice to get the full flavor impact of their yeast?

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Would it make a differance between the beers because it is a different beer type, if it is the same yeast in each bottle type? I understand you could have off effects from the initial harvested yeast because they may not be clean but you have to add and take away several servings of 'wort' to actually get a large enough sample of yeast. Wouldn't that clean any after effects off of the yeast that may have been left from the beer it was brewed in?

The brewer I spoke with told me to use midnight wheat to harvest the yeast from the bottle so I steeped the midnight wheat grains and added DME to each feeding.

I got quite a bit of yeast from the AoD so hopefully it works well with the grain bill I had put together.

I found a bar nearby that is still selling bottles of AoD for 21 bucks. (6 bucks higher than whole foods had it). Maybe check the bars nearby for it.

Ive got all my grains put together and will be brewing this tomorrow. I also grabbed 15 large vials to store the leftover yeast in so hopefully I can preserve some.

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The brew last night went great and my bottle harvested yeast started bubbling. If this clone comes out close to AoD I will post it up for you guys.

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