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Old 11-28-2006, 06:13 AM   #1
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What % of oats do you wit brewers use in your wit beers?
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I don't know of any oats in a wit. There's some wheat malt, but no oats.

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Old 11-29-2006, 12:02 AM   #3
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Alot of wit beers have oats added to the mash .

Thanks but i know how much wheat to use

There must be some wit brewers out there that have used oats in the mash

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What wit beers are those? Oatmeal stouts use oats, to the tune of a pound or so per 5 gallons, but I'm still lost on the wit.

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Old 11-29-2006, 01:10 AM   #5
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From http://www.brewery.org/cm3/recs/09_55.html


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Wit

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Classification: wit, Belgian ale, Celis white, wheat beer, all-grain
Source: Tony Babinec (tony@spss.com), HBD Issue #1095, 3/11/93


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Flaked wheat is available from homebrew shops, but can also be found in health food stores or natural food sections of supermarkets. I MUCH prefer flaked wheat to raw wheat berries. The flaked wheat is already gelatinized. The raw wheat berries should be boiled and gelatinized, and that's a mess. Also, there are different wheats available, and it's not clear to me that what's available in the health food stores is the same wheat as the Belgians use. The wheat malt in the above grain bill was a hedge, and in retrospect could have been flaked wheat.
Flaked oats are available from homebrew shops, but rolled oats (such as Quaker oats) could be used.

Somewhere in Michael Jackson's writings, I'm pretty sure he says that Hoegaarden Wit has a grain bill as follows:

50 parts barley malt
45 parts wheat
5 parts oats


While my grain bill used a bit more barley malt than these proportions would suggest, I was nervous about conversion and my starting gravity. Not to worry -- the deliberate low temperature rests and long rest times did the trick, and I got about a 1.050 beer.

Ground coriander is a great spice, and I thought that 20 gms would not be too heavy-handed. Incidentally, there are different types of coriander seeds available. Instead of going to the spice rack of your favorite grocer, go to a spice specialty store to seek out the larger coriander seed that is more "noble" -- that is, aromatic and flavorful.

Ideally, the orange peel should be from the curacao orange. Here's a thought -- use a dash of orange curacao liquor in the beer. I used McCormick dried orange peel to no apparent bad effect. If I were to do things again, I might up the amount a bit, or substitute something fresher.

Cardamom is a very elegant spice with a lemon-citrusy aroma and flavor. I use it lightly for background flavor and character.

Wyeast Belgian is a strong-gravity performer, but I used it here in a conventional-gravity beer. It did contribute a bit of its own flavor, though somewhat muted. I racked onto the yeast cake from a just-racked beer, and maybe that contributed a bit of pleasant dryness to the beer. I'd love to get my hands on Hoegaarden or Celis yeast, and failing that, might use Wyeast "London."

The suggestion in HBD to add a dash of lactic acid for some tartness sounds like something to try. As the acid is quite concentrated, it shouldn't take much.

Ingredients:
5 pounds pale malt
1 pound wheat malt
2.5 pounds flaked wheat
0.5 pounds flaked oats
hersbrucker hops to 18 IBUs
20 gms ground coriander seed
5 gms dried orange peel
2 gms ground cardamom
yeast: Wyeast Belgian
Procedure:
Process was an upward step infusion mash:
110 degrees F for 45 minutes
122 degrees F for 45 minutes
144 degrees F for 30 minutes
150 degrees F for 90 minutes
mash out

Spices were added in the last 10 minutes of the boil.

Specifics:
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The only reference in the wheat-beer section of "Designing Great Beers" is a brief mention of a medieval brew that included some oats (along with beans), herbs, and "fined with ten new-laid eggs, not cracked or broken."

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Oats are used in a wit in small amounts. 5-6% in mine.

Daza, let me know if you have any other Wit questions, I have had good experience with the style - brewed it both commercially and homebrewed (the recipe I have is from a microbrewery).

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Cheers guys thanks for your help....

Bigfoot do you use promash?? if so ill send you my recipe to see what you
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Actually, just noticed in another section of Daniels' book that oats often account for 10-11% of a wit recipe. Huh, learn something new every day....

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Cheers guys thanks for your help....

Bigfoot do you use promash?? if so ill send you my recipe to see what you
think

cheers Daza
Sure; I'll check it out.
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