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Old 07-24-2014, 11:58 PM   #1
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Hey guys I'm making a peach cobbler ale, tells me to use Nottingham dry yeast but I'm looking to sub it with a Wyeast. Was thinking Wyeast 1318 London Ale III or Wyeast 1968 London ESB...
Any suggestions guys (or gals)
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Old 07-25-2014, 12:00 AM   #2
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Hey guys I'm making a peach cobbler ale, tells me to use Nottingham dry yeast but I'm looking to sub it with a Wyeast. Was thinking Wyeast 1318 London Ale III or Wyeast 1968 London ESB...
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Old 07-25-2014, 12:01 AM   #3
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Hey guys I'm making a peach cobbler ale, tells me to use Nottingham dry yeast but I'm looking to sub it with a Wyeast. Was thinking Wyeast 1318 London Ale III or Wyeast 1968 London ESB...
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Since you have so many of these questions on the board maybe the charts below will be helpful. Nottingham is quite neutral, I suspect those other two strains will be fruitier and lower attenuating although I don't have a lot of personal experience with them. Out of curiosity, do you have something against dry yeast? All your questions regard replacing easily found, quality dry yeasts with liquid.

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Since you have so many of these questions on the board maybe the charts below will be helpful. Nottingham is quite neutral, I suspect those other two strains will be fruitier and lower attenuating although I don't have a lot of personal experience with them. Out of curiosity, do you have something against dry yeast? All your questions regard replacing easily found, quality dry yeasts with liquid.

Dry/wyeast/whitelabs chart
mr malty wyeast/white lab equivalents

Honestly I have just always used the Wyeast packs and have never tried to use dry yeast... Mostly because Ido to know what I'm doing and I'm very confused by the yeast count and how much I should use... Willing to give it a go if someone wants to walk me threw it lol
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Are you just using a single smack pack per batch, or are you doing starters? If not doing a starter then you may actually be better off with dry yeast. The calculator at mrmalty.com tells how much to pitch for both dry and liquid yeast.

Many folks just sprinkle the dry yeast on top of the wort but there will be some cell loss that way. I usually do that with my 2.5 gal batches because an entire pack would be more yeast than I need anyway. To avoid the cell loss you can rehydrate the dry yeast before pitching, see below.

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Ok so I get that part of rehydrating the yeast and what not. I used to be a baker and made a lot of yeast starters for bread so I get how yeast acts. The point in question is the fact the packs are 11grams and says it's 6 billion cells per gram... Which means a pack is only 66 billon cells how is this enough for one pack to make a 5 gal patch???

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Yeah the spec sheets say >= 5 billion but the actual counts are more like 20 billion. Sources:

http://www.mrmalty.com/pitching.php
http://www.danstaryeast.com/articles...t-and-glycogen

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Thanks a lot chickypad, after some searching and checking out mr malty I think I will be going with dry yeast now... You have saved me some time and money thanks

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