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Old 09-09-2008, 08:55 PM   #1
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I was at the LHBS during lunch to pick up some brewing supplies for this week. I was hoping to brew a nice simple (inexpensive) house pale ale:

6lbs DME
.5oz Crystal 40
.5oz Carapils
Safale US-05

I've heard raves about the simcoe/amarillo/cascade combination so those were the planned hops. When I got to the LHBS the guy laughed and said "unless you're working at a brewery you can't get your hands on any simcoe".

So I asked for magnum...no magnum...then millennium...no millennium. To cut the trend short I just asked what he had in stock that would go well with the cascade/amarillo combination and he suggested centennial. I've never used centennial before, so I'm not sure how the flavor profile will change. Actually I never used simcoe before either - I was just hoping to try it from rave reviews I read on this site.

Anyway, I guess this is all to say I didn't realize how hard it would be to get my hands on particular hope varieties.

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Old 09-09-2008, 08:57 PM   #2
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Midwest and Austin both have Simcoe pellets in stock.

Hop Availability Chart - Brew365

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Old 09-09-2008, 08:59 PM   #3
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Austin Homebrew Supply

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Simcoe Hop Pellets - 1 oz. :: Midwest Supplies Homebrewing and Winemaking Supplies
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Old 09-09-2008, 08:59 PM   #4
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Ah, looks like I should have checked the internet first.

I like the concept of supporting the local guy, but for some of these hop varieties I guess I'm going to need to look to the internet.

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Old 09-09-2008, 09:09 PM   #5
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simcoe's great... but as is centennial... in short, centennial is a super charged "cascade." So, you'll get plenty of citrus, grapefruit goodness...

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Old 09-09-2008, 09:22 PM   #6
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I only purchased an ounce of each, so I'm thinking about the hop schedule.
Originally I was thinking something along the lines of

1oz centennial 60 min
.5oz amarillo 15 min
.5oz cascase 5 min

and then dry hop with .5oz amarillo and .5oz cascade. But now that I think about it - is there a benefit to mixing it up a little more and spreading the centennial out or preserving some of it for dry hoping?

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simcoe's great... but as is centennial... in short, centennial is a super charged "cascade." So, you'll get plenty of citrus, grapefruit goodness...
Don't you mean Amarillo is a supercharged cascade?
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I think Centennial is great... For what may become my house IPA I use Centennial, Simcoe and Amarillo, with the Centennial pulling double duty as bittering and flavor hops, the amarillo doing flavor and dry hop, and the simcoe going for just dry hopping.

I know that my LHBS is almost out of Centennial, though. He actually had only 1 pound left when I got there, and I am thankful for it, otherwise I couldnt brew tonight... But a lot of the high alpha hops are in short supply, so grab them when you can. Centennial has a great grapefruit nose and flavor, and it will do well with the amarillo and cascade.

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Don't you mean Amarillo is a supercharged cascade?
Centennial is a super-charged Cascade... I am not sure if Amarillo is as well...
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If you have your heart set on Simcoe, there isn't anything that can replace it. DFH 60 min IPA and Stone Vertical 08.08.08 both use simcoe and it's a distincly wonderful flavor.

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