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Old 11-12-2012, 11:57 PM   #151
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I'm not sure why Beersmith did that. I would assume it adds just as much as the 60 minute addition, but I'm not sure how to do the calculations for FWH.
It actually add MORE than the 60min addition

When you do it, do FWH on the hops selection and it'll figure it out for you.. Mine does automatically.
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:59 PM   #152
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I was going with the Crystal for color and extra mouthfeel but it seems I should go dryer to boost the hop characteristics. You think substituting Vienna in place of the Crystal is a good option? I have seen some Pale Recipes that go this route...And that would keep the Cara down to about 5% >>> Maybe sub something else in instead of Vienna or just do away with that second malt addition altogether... Because the aim here is to get a good highlight of the Belma hop. Thanks for the insight.

Mash higher if you want more mouthfeel. Change the grain ratio to make up for the higher mash temp.

Try 152-153, knock the crystal down, maybe toss in a bit of munich if you want some color and body to go along with not making it ultra sweet.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:02 AM   #153
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Did you calculate 0 IBU's from the FWH?
I didn't realize I still had to enter the minutes for FWH and adjusted my original recipe. Now its 75 IBUS overall, which should turn out pretty well.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:18 AM   #154
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I didn't realize I still had to enter the minutes for FWH and adjusted my original recipe. Now its 75 IBUS overall, which should turn out pretty well.
Which BS version?

If I have a 60 min boil set, it automatically takes that into account when I select FWH. Maybe previous versions don't do that?

Whichever the case, glad you got it worked out.
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Old 11-13-2012, 12:43 AM   #155
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Anyone in Pittsburgh area interested in trying out belma, or placing an order with Hops Direct? Shipping on 2# is a whopping 12.60, but shipping on 10# is only $23.00.

That's much more reasonable - comes to 7.55/lb.

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Old 11-13-2012, 11:21 PM   #156
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I just got a pound in with my centennial order. I am planning on doing a simple extract pale ale of about 30 inus to test them. I'm debating going straight belma or combining with other hops. Those who have used them so far what are your suggestions? I have the following hops on hand

Centennial 1#
Cascade 0.5 oz
Sorachi ace 2oz
Motieka 1.5 oz
Magnum .5 oz
Fuggles .5 oz
Saaz 1 oz
Perle 1 oz

Tanks in advance for the input.

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Old 11-14-2012, 12:17 PM   #157
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Hoping to brew this recipe over the weekend, looking forward to trying them out.

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 6.46 gal
Post Boil Volume: 5.46 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.00 gal
Bottling Volume: 4.50 gal
Estimated OG: 1.050 SG
Estimated Color: 6.7 SRM
Estimated IBU: 47.7 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 78.7 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
8 lbs 9.2 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 92.5 %
6.0 oz Caramel Malt - 60L (Cargill) (60.0 SRM) Grain 2 4.1 %
5.1 oz Biscuit Malt (23.0 SRM) Grain 3 3.4 %
0.25 oz Warrior [15.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 4 14.7 IBUs
0.25 oz Warrior [15.00 %] - Boil 45.0 min Hop 5 13.5 IBUs
0.25 oz Belma [12.10 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 6 9.0 IBUs
0.50 Items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 mins) Fining 7 -
0.25 oz Belma [12.10 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 8 5.8 IBUs
0.50 oz Belma [12.10 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 9 4.7 IBUs
0.5 pkg Safale American (DCL/Fermentis #US-05) Yeast 10 -
1.50 oz Belma [12.10 %] - Dry Hop 10.0 Days Hop 11 0.0 IBUs


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body, No Mash Out
Total Grain Weight: 9 lbs 4.3 oz
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 12.58 qt of water at 162.7 F 152.0 F 60 min

Sparge: Fly sparge with 4.68 gal water at 168.0 F

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You guys that have used them would they be subtle enough to use in a lager? I keep hearing people say they are subtle but how subtle. Would it be gross in say an Oktoberfest?

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You guys that have used them would they be subtle enough to use in a lager? I keep hearing people say they are subtle but how subtle. Would it be gross in say an Oktoberfest?
I wouldn't use them in a lager. I don't find them that subtle. There's a decent about of 'resin' character to them. Not as much as CTZ or Citra per-say, but it's not a 'clean' lager hop.
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Which BS version?

If I have a 60 min boil set, it automatically takes that into account when I select FWH. Maybe previous versions don't do that?

Whichever the case, glad you got it worked out.
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