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Old 12-08-2006, 05:24 AM   #21
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I use Magnum alot in my APA's and IPA's. At first I wasn't to happy w/ them but after using them for a few batches (bittering only) , I like them alot. Clean bittering in and out of the pallet. Makes a great match with Centennial, Cascade an such.


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I picked up some sorachi ace and magnums today! I couldn't believe my crappy hbs had them. Those sorachis are sooo aromatic, they smell like a giant bag of grapefruits, I can hardly wait to use them.

Dude, what's your Sorachi Slammer recipe going to be?
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Anyone know of a place to get this other than freshops.com? Also, anyone found it in pellets?

I plan on making a saison with mine.
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I picked up some sorachi ace and magnums today! I couldn't believe my crappy hbs had them. Those sorachis are sooo aromatic, they smell like a giant bag of grapefruits, I can hardly wait to use them.

Dude, what's your Sorachi Slammer recipe going to be?
Check my sig. Wanna work on an exact recipe so we can kind of get the same sense of the hop character?
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Check my sig. Wanna work on an exact recipe so we can kind of get the same sense of the hop character?

You bet!
Do you always use wheat malt? I assume you're using it for head-retention purposes. I haven't had a problem with this yet in my brews. Recipe looks good so far. What temp are you planning on mashing at?
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You bet!
Do you always use wheat malt? I assume you're using it for head-retention purposes. I haven't had a problem with this yet in my brews. Recipe looks good so far. What temp are you planning on mashing at?
yeah, I always use wheat malt. It shouldn't affect the flavor if oyu don't want to use it.

I was thinking about 150°, what were you thinking?

I'm game to change the recipe a little bit you know. I want a standard APA recipe so I can brew more single hop beers using the exact same recipe--including hop addition times. I'm considering dropping the IBUs a bit on this one. Maybe a straight up 1:1 BU:GU ratio?
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yeah, I always use wheat malt. It shouldn't affect the flavor if oyu don't want to use it.

I was thinking about 150°, what were you thinking?
Well, I used to mash a bit lower and use dextrine malt, but since I have started mashing a few degrees higher, I have been able to drop the dextrine all-together without noticing. I was going to say about 153°. Is there another reason to add dextrine besides mouthfeel?

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I'm game to change the recipe a little bit you know. I want a standard APA recipe so I can brew more single hop beers using the exact same recipe--including hop addition times. I'm considering dropping the IBUs a bit on this one. Maybe a straight up 1:1 BU:GU ratio?

Yeah, closer to 1:1 might leave a little more room for the hop flavor to shine through. As and aside, did you know that Pliny the Elder is lab tested to have only 67 IBUs? Go figure.
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Well, I used to mash a bit lower and use dextrine malt, but since I have started mashing a few degrees higher, I have been able to drop the dextrine all-together without noticing. I was going to say about 153°. Is there another reason to add dextrine besides mouthfeel?
Let's compromise and go 151-152° then.

I'm pretty sure dextrine adds only mouthfeel, but I've noticed a little bit really helps me still. The only reason I don't mash so high now is because of the dextrine--and all of my buddies told me by beers were better when they were dryer. Once I started mashing lower they got better.


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Yeah, closer to 1:1 might leave a little more room for the hop flavor to shine through.
I agree. Any input on where you want those hop additions? I'll run it through Promash and Beertools and see what it gives us for IBUs if I for example only do .5 oz. for bittering. I'll post results in a bit.

Any other changes in the recipe? The only reason I ask is that once I brew this Sorachi Slammer--this recipe is going to be MY base for my single hopped beers.

BTW, I'm going to use Safale-56, because I have a ton of it. I'm tempted to use the WLP005 slurry from the Pub Ale batch that I'm doing tomorrow though...but a true APA needs 56 I think.


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As and aside, did you know that Pliny the Elder is lab tested to have only 67 IBUs? Go figure.
Yeah, I read that the other day! I find it so hard to believe, but interesting at least. The only reason I came up with 278 is because that is what Promash told me.
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Weird.

I put the exact sam recipe into both programs and I'm getting much different numbers.

I'm going to stick with Promash for now until I figure out BeerTools.

Anyway, I changed up the hop additions to 60, 30, 15, 00 and DH. .5 oz. at each addition. That gave me 56 IBUs with an OG of 1.057 fixed at 80% efficiency. Right on. Look/sound good?
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Maybe I'll mash a little lower and add back the dextrine, 151.5 sounds perfect!
That hop addition schedule looks good, I like having more later as well. Don't want any experimental additions if it's going to be a baseline, hop-evaluation beer. I think with those additions, you'll get a pretty good representation of the hop. What do you think about adding 5minutes to the last two additions and throwing in another ounce at flame-out? 20-10-0?
Yeast looks good, perfect for testing as well. Dry 56 is almost impossible to find up here...

Let me know when we're brewing this one. Maybe the first trans-national simul-brew?


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