New hop--SORACHI ACE? - Page 10

**Denny's Evil Concoctions** · 02-24-2009, 08:57 AM

OK guys, might order 5 lbs of these hops. If I don't like the flavor profile I'll use just for bittering.

Whats the consenus on this hop for flav/aroma. any particular styles?

Also, anyone first wort hop these?

**pjj2ba** · 02-24-2009, 03:00 PM

I find their bitterness very smooth, both 60' and FWH. I've used them at 5 min. and have gotten a definite lemon out of them. I've never used them as a flavor addition (15'-20') - other than FWH and I found that to be fairly netural. I've only used them in lagers and wheat beers.

It is a hop I like to keep on hand at all times.

jds · 02-24-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Denny's Evil Concoctions

OK guys, might order 5 lbs of these hops. If I don't like the flavor profile I'll use just for bittering.

Whats the consenus on this hop for flav/aroma. any particular styles?

Also, anyone first wort hop these?

Yep. I like this as a bittering hop for American-style IPA, as well as for wit beers. FWH mellows the flavor on this hop considerably.

In January I did a "Leftover Hops" IPA with Sorachi and a touch of Columbus at FWH, Wilammete and Sterling for flavoring, and more Sorachi Ace at flameout. The flameout addition made an oil slick on the top of the beer.

After oaking and dry-hopping, the IPA turned out delicious, with not too much citrusy character, part of which I attribute to using older (2007 crop) Sorachi Ace. It's still aging, but is so good it may not get to fully age.

A while back I did a wit beer with Sorachi Ace as well that turned out nicely. Because of the high AA%, in a low-ibu beer like wit, there's not a lot of hop flavor. The beer got a lot of compliments from people who know beer, though.

freyguy · 02-24-2009, 06:51 PM

Here's a great recipe that I've used them in:

5gal batch, 1067 OG, 1012FG, 77% Eff
Amount Item Type % or IBU
9.00 lb Pilsner (2 Row) Ger (2.0 SRM) Grain 73.47 %
0.75 lb Wheat Malt, Bel (2.0 SRM) Grain 6.12 %
0.50 lb Biscuit Malt (23.0 SRM) Grain 4.08 %
0.50 lb Special B Malt (180.0 SRM) Grain 4.08 %
0.38 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 3.10 %
0.12 lb Carafa III (525.0 SRM) Grain 0.98 %
0.32 oz Magnum [10.80 %] (75 min) Hops 11.8 IBU
0.25 oz Pacific Gem [15.00 %] (10 min) Hops 4.9 IBU
0.25 oz Sorachi Ace [13.70 %] (5 min) Hops 2.2 IBU
0.25 oz Sorachi Ace [13.70 %] (1 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep) Hops -
0.25 oz Pacific Gem [15.00 %] (1 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep) Hops -
0.50 oz Coriander Seed (Boil 5.0 min) Misc
0.50 lb Candi Sugar, Dark (275.0 SRM) Sugar 4.08 %
0.50 lb Corn Sugar (Dextrose) (0.0 SRM) Sugar 4.08 %
1 Pkgs Canadian Belgian (Wyeast Labs #3864) [Starter 1500 ml] Yeast-Ale

The guy I got the recipe from calls it Travelers and Tourists since most of the ingredients are from all over the world. It's kinda dubbel-ish, but with a slight lemon zing, and the twang from the coriander. It is really good and I'll be brewing it again. Several times.

**Denny's Evil Concoctions** · 02-24-2009, 08:26 PM

damn. My supplier wants $179 CAD ($145 USD) for 5 lbs. yikes.

Northern brewer is about $90.

**Schlenkerla** · 05-23-2009, 05:19 PM

I just a got pound of SA. I'm gonna make another lawn mower beer with this.

Prolly should use rice as an adjunct.