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09-13-2009, 03:43 PM
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New Belgium 1554 - tried it last night
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Now I'm looking for a recipe/clone - what an outstanding beer Belgian Dark Ale (Black Beer).
It's like a Brown Ale with a Belgian twist - very very drinkable, a good session ale
"cherry fruitiness, some fresh-baked dark bread, smoked (slightly charred edged) wood. Sweet with just a touch of spicy, bitterish, balance in the candy-ish finish."
Anybody tried the AHS clone??
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09-13-2009, 04:41 PM
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I tried it but wasn't very impressed. However (and this is crucial), it was the second beer that I ever brewed and I didn't know what the heck I was doing. AHS has a very good rep on their clone kits.
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09-13-2009, 08:42 PM
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It's really brewed with lager yeast.
by Brewer Tom on Tue Oct 07, 2003 10:53 am
From: Brewer Bob (bob-girolamonospam@nospamsbcglobal.net)
Subject: Re: 1554 Black Ale Clone
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.brewing
Date: 2003-05-21 15:03:05 PST
NB 1554
A ProMash Recipe Report
BJCP Style and Style Guidelines
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13-B European Dark Lager, Schwarzbier
Min OG: 1.044 Max OG: 1.054
Min IBU: 25 Max IBU: 35
Min Clr: 20 Max Clr: 40 Color in SRM, Lovibond
Recipe Specifics
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Batch Size (Gal): 5.50 Wort Size (Gal): 5.50
Total Grain (Lbs): 10.75
Anticipated OG: 1.055 Plato: 13.60
Anticipated SRM: 32.8
Anticipated IBU: 27.7
Brewhouse Efficiency: 80 %
Wort Boil Time: 90 Minutes
Pre-Boil Amounts
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Evaporation Rate: 1.50 Gallons Per Hour
Pre-Boil Wort Size: 7.75 Gal
Pre-Boil Gravity: 1.039 SG 9.78 Plato
Formulas Used
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Brewhouse Efficiency and Predicted Gravity based on Method #1, Potential Used.
Final Gravity Calculation Based on Points.
Hard Value of Sucrose applied. Value for recipe: 46.2100 ppppg
Yield Type used in Gravity Prediction: Fine Grind Dry Basis.
Color Formula Used: Morey
Hop IBU Formula Used: Tinseth
Tinseth Concentration Factor: 1.30
Grain/Extract/Sugar
% Amount Name Origin Potential SRM
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46.5 5.00 lbs. Pale Malt(2-row) America 1.036 2
27.9 3.00 lbs. Munich Malt Germany 1.037 8
9.3 1.00 lbs. Crystal 40L America 1.034 40
7.0 0.75 lbs. Chocolate Malt Belgium 1.030 500
4.7 0.50 lbs. Crystal 80L 1.033 80
4.7 0.50 lbs. Honey Malt Canada 1.030 18
Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.
Hops
Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
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0.75 oz. Mt. Hood Whole 5.90 15.9 90 min.
0.50 oz. Mt. Hood Whole 5.90 7.6 30 min.
0.50 oz. Crystal Whole 5.00 4.2 15 min.
Yeast
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White Labs WLP800 Pilsner Lager
Mash Schedule
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Mash Type: Single Step
Grain Lbs: 10.75
Water Qts: 20.00 - Before Additional Infusions
Water Gal: 5.00 - Before Additional Infusions
Qts Water Per Lbs Grain: 1.86 - Before Additional Infusions
Saccharification Rest Temp : 152 Time: 90
Mash-out Rest Temp : 176 Time: 60
Sparge Temp : 180 Time: 45
Total Mash Volume Gal: 5.86 - Dough-In Infusion Only
All temperature measurements are degrees Fahrenheit.
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Its swimming upstream to teach people actual facts. People hear one thing from certain people that then it doesn't matter whats true or not.
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09-13-2009, 08:48 PM
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Whats up with the lager yeast - is it a lager?
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09-13-2009, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by NB
Born of a flood and centuries-old Belgian text, 1554 Enlightened Black Ale uses a light lager yeast strain and dark chocolaty malts to redefine what dark beer can be.
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ten chars.
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09-14-2009, 04:38 AM
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sounds like a schwarzbier with pale instead of pils to me.
/shrug
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Last night, as I cleaned out four carboys, two corney kegs and lots of lines, my 12 year old daughter noted: "Dad, it looks like brewing beer is mostly about washing dishes."
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09-14-2009, 04:40 AM
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What about a 2 below clone...I love that beer.
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Planning- Best Bitter, Patersbier, dry stout
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Last night, as I cleaned out four carboys, two corney kegs and lots of lines, my 12 year old daughter noted: "Dad, it looks like brewing beer is mostly about washing dishes."
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09-14-2009, 11:18 AM
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So do they ferment it at lager temps, or use a lager yeast at higher temps? I've wondered about this since they call it an ale. Also, i've never lagered, but really want to clone this brew, what are lager temps? I've got space in the beer fridge for a primary, but it's like 38 degrees in there... And i don't really wanna drink warm beer if i warm up the fridge.
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09-14-2009, 11:47 AM
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Here is a great thread on it from TBN.
It uses the same lager yeast as Blue Paddle but is fermented warmer. The roasted grains are of the non-bittering variety...so either dehusked Carafa or debittered Black...and used sparingly, just enough for color. No aroma hops...only bittering hops. It has a 'spice' addition...the guess-du-jour is Grains of Paradise.
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09-14-2009, 01:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Conroe
It's really brewed with lager yeast.
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I could taste that on the very first sip.
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