New Giveaway - Wort Monster Conical Fermeneter!

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Recipes/Ingredients > Need a good BELGIAN WIT recipe. EXTRACT BASED!




Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-18-2009, 09:38 PM   #1
bgough
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: San Luis Obispo, CA
Posts: 304
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default Need a good BELGIAN WIT recipe. EXTRACT BASED!

Hey all! Im just getting started brewing (3rd batch), and I'm looking for a good extract based WIT recipe.

First off, could I just use Wheat malt extract and then steep flaked oats or flaked wheat for mouthfeel?

Or, would it be worth my time to try a mini-mash for this style( This makes me a little nervous because I've never tried it.)

Thanks in advance~



__________________
bgough is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-18-2009, 09:44 PM   #2
BierMuncher
...My Junk is Ugly...
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
BierMuncher's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 12,033
Liked 479 Times on 294 Posts
Likes Given: 156

Default

See my Blue Balls (sig). Post #5 for extract with steeping grains.



BierMuncher is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-18-2009, 09:48 PM   #3
DeathBrewer
Maniacally Malty
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
DeathBrewer's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Oakland, CA
Posts: 21,826
Liked 199 Times on 110 Posts

Default

Time for a mini-mash For a true wit, you want unmalted wheat along with pilsner malt.

Check out the link in my sig for PM brewing. I could probably help formulate a recipe for you to make an easy partial mash, but I'm pretty busy at werk today.

__________________
Easy Partial Mash Brewing - Stovetop All-Grain Brewing

"Death is always with us." - Brewpastor

Quote:
DIAICYLF
We will remember...
DeathBrewer is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-18-2009, 10:34 PM   #4
sconnie
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 122
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts

Default

True Wit beers use Flaked wheat, which needs to be mashed, not just steeped, for conversion. In the past I have made a pretty passable Wit with a combination of wheat extract and a mini-mash of pilsner and flaked wheat, even though wheat extract is made with wheat malt instead of flaked wheat. The mini mash with give it some flaked wheat mouthfeel, and a lot of the flavor of Wit comes from the yeast and spices, so while it's not 100% true to style it makes a good beer.

__________________

currently brewing:
Meridian IPA
On Tap:
Bohemian Pils
Bottled:
-Baltic Porter
-Belgian Brettanomyces Amber

sconnie is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-19-2009, 01:12 AM   #5
Bob
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Christiansted, St Croix, USVI, US Virgin Islands
Posts: 3,860
Liked 116 Times on 87 Posts
Likes Given: 33

Default

+1 to the other guys, who tell you that the best, world-class Witbiers use unmalted wheat and often oats. For that, you need at least a mini-mash. Mini-mashing is really, really easy; DeathBrewer's tutorial is Teh Awsum.

You can make a damned fine Witbier with wheat extract only, however. It just won't be exactly like Hoegaarden, because you can only get that from the aforementioned grains.

If you stick with extract, steep a half-pound of CaraPils and use your favorite Wheat extract. Then it's all up to the spices and yeast.

You can do this!

Bob

Bob is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-19-2009, 07:01 AM   #6
bgough
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: San Luis Obispo, CA
Posts: 304
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

Death Brewer, thanks! The tutorial was great. I think I could do a mini mash.

How much grain should I use for the mash if I use a 50/50 slpit of unmalted(flaked?)wheat and pilsner malt, and how much should be Wheat Malt Extract?

__________________
bgough is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-19-2009, 07:30 AM   #7
DeathBrewer
Maniacally Malty
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
DeathBrewer's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Oakland, CA
Posts: 21,826
Liked 199 Times on 110 Posts

Default

I'd go with the following:

2 lbs pilsner
2 lbs unmalted wheat (flaked is fine...true unmalted will involve more steps)
3 lbs Wheat DME

go light on the spices and use styrian goldings and/or saaz for the hops

__________________
Easy Partial Mash Brewing - Stovetop All-Grain Brewing

"Death is always with us." - Brewpastor

Quote:
DIAICYLF
We will remember...
DeathBrewer is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-19-2009, 07:37 AM   #8
bgough
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: San Luis Obispo, CA
Posts: 304
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

What extra steps does unmalted have?

Also, whats the difference between the two?

__________________

Last edited by bgough; 02-19-2009 at 07:41 AM.
bgough is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-19-2009, 02:23 PM   #9
Shawn Hargreaves
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Seattle
Posts: 344
Liked 4 Times on 4 Posts

Default

Unmalted wheat needs to be cooked prior to the mash, to gelatinize it (which makes the starches available to the mash: without that you just have a bunch of hard grain kernels that the enzymes cannot get to). With flaked wheat, this gelatinization has already happened during the flaking process, so you can add it directly to the mash along with the pilsner malt.

I would also advise throwing a pound or so of rice hulls in there. These have no flavor impact, but will make your sparge (rinse) stage much easier. Wheat tends to get pretty sticky, so without rice hulls, a 50/50 wheat barley mix can be a pain to work with!

__________________
Shawn Hargreaves is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-19-2009, 03:23 PM   #10
DeathBrewer
Maniacally Malty
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
DeathBrewer's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Oakland, CA
Posts: 21,826
Liked 199 Times on 110 Posts

Default

oh yeah...i also made a PM recipe for my whogarden:

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/whogarden-hoegaarden-clone-76543/

Similar to what I stated earlier and it gives you an idea of the spices.

If you want to know how to use unmalted wheat, search for "cereal mash"



__________________
Easy Partial Mash Brewing - Stovetop All-Grain Brewing

"Death is always with us." - Brewpastor

Quote:
DIAICYLF
We will remember...
DeathBrewer is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply


Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Looking for a good Belgian Trippel/Quad recipe (extract) NewBrew75 Recipes/Ingredients 9 03-03-2011 03:31 PM
Need a good BELGIAN WIT recipe. EXTRACT BASED! bgough Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 16 03-05-2009 10:53 PM
Anyone got any good extract Belgian Blonde Recipes. blisterman Extract Brewing 1 10-25-2008 01:42 PM
extract-based Hoegaarden-like recipe? FSBrewer Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 4 07-06-2008 10:37 AM
extract belgian recipe anyone? massappeal120 Recipes/Ingredients 8 11-27-2007 10:15 PM