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Old 07-19-2007, 11:46 PM   #11
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I think you've got a winner. Should be a really nice beer.

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Old 07-20-2007, 12:52 AM   #12
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The S-04 will be a big improvement over the Nottingham, but I can't help thinking that 0.5 lbs 20 L crystal is going to be too light. That would be much lighter than the lightest OB I've ever had.

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Old 07-20-2007, 01:00 AM   #13
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Bitters usually seem to use ~60L crystal, so I might be inclined to use the 40. It won't add a ton of color, especially if only using a half-pound or so. I don't think of a bitter as being especially pale, anyway. Either way, it should make a good beer.

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Old 07-20-2007, 01:26 PM   #14
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I've actually used crystal 120 and special roast in bitters. It gives it a nice flavor. Jamil suggested those in one of his radio programs.

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Old 07-21-2007, 01:20 AM   #15
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I figured out why everyone is suggesting darker crystals and why I'm being so resistant. I listened to the Jamil podcast on Bitters and read the BJCP. There are ordinary ordinary bitters that are more in the 8-10 SRM range and then there are golden or summer bitters that are more pale in the 4-8 SRM range and that's actually what I'm trying to brew.

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Old 08-28-2007, 12:34 PM   #16
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This beer has been done a while and I can vouch for the recipe. It's really good, somewhere between a Boddington's and a Bass, but I didn't do a side by side. Overall a nice simple recipe using a dry yeast.
Summer Ordinary Bitter Ale
8-A Standard/Ordinary Bitter



Size: 5.75 gal
Efficiency: 76.55%
Attenuation: 75.0%
Calories: 125.66 per 12.0 fl oz

Original Gravity: 1.038 (1.032 - 1.040)
|===================#============|
Terminal Gravity: 1.010 (1.007 - 1.011)
|==================#=============|
Color: 5.9 (4.0 - 14.0)
|===========#====================|
Alcohol: 3.72% (3.2% - 3.8%)
|=====================#==========|
Bitterness: 29.83 (25.0 - 35.0)
|===============#================|

Ingredients:
6 lbs 2-Row Brewers Malt
1 lbs Munich TYPE I
1 lbs 2-Row Caramel Malt 10L
0.25 lbs Victory® Malt
1 oz Fuggle (4.8%) - added during boil, boiled 60 min
1 oz Fuggle (4.8%) - added during boil, boiled 20 min
1 oz Fuggle (4.8%) - added during boil, boiled 5 min
1 ea Fermentis S-04 Safale S-04

Schedule:
Ambient Air: 70.0 °F
Source Water: 60.0 °F
Elevation: 0.0 m

00:33:31 Mash In - Liquor: 2.5 gal; Strike: 167.3 °F; Target: 154.0 °F
01:33:31 Saccharification Rest - Rest: 60.0 min; Final: 152.0 °F
01:40:17 Mash Out - Heat: 6.8 min; Target: 168.0 °F
02:25:17 Sparge - Mash out: 2.0 gal sparge @ 170.0 °F, 2.8 gal collected, 45.0 min; Sparge #2: 3.3 gal sparge @ 168.0 °F, 4 gal collected, 0.0 min; Total Runoff: 6.97 gal

Notes:
Evaporated .75 gallons more than expected and had to top up .75g to keep within gravity limits of the style. Hopefully won't blow off too much. Hit 77% effeciency. At 5 gallons, measured 1.044 OG. Added the .75g back in to dilute to 1.038 OG.

Bitter and Flavor hop additions were done in hop bags, aroma was free thrown into kettle.

Recirculated wort through CFC with march pump and used a prechiller after it got down to 100F. Recirced until ice was melted then ran into fermenter. Was about 78F. Pitched and put the carboy into a rubbermaid tub with cold water and an ice pack. I want this to churn at under 70F.

Rehydrated the S-04.

Tested SG on the night of 7/23 when I saw krausen falling. It's at 1.011 already in only 48 hours.
Tested at 7/30/07 and it's done at about 1.010.

Had a leak on the beer out disconnect and lost 4 gallons into the chest freezer.

Tasted what was left on 8/26/07. This is a really good beer. Of course it is, I only have a gallon and half left. This is one of the clearest beers I've made. It tastes pretty close to a Bass.


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Old 08-28-2007, 12:40 PM   #17
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Had a leak on the beer out disconnect and lost 4 gallons into the chest freezer.]
I hate when that happens. I had a similar experience with my fridge last summer, and lost about three gallons all over the basement floor.
Savor what you saved!
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On one hand, at least it's a cheap beer to make and not some barley wine I had aging for a year. On the other hand, it's a delicious session beer that I'm only going to get a choice few sessions out of.

By the way, chalk one more pro to using a chest freezer as the keggerator. As pissed as I was to see it wasted, I had no cleanup job in the garage.

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Old 08-28-2007, 02:50 PM   #19
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My basement is unfinished so it was a quick fix hosing down the fridge and blasting water and beer into the french drain.

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