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Old 10-05-2008, 01:50 AM   #11
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Aren't the recipes in the book the exact same ones from his podcasts? Or is there additional stuff in the book?

Here is a link to a bunch of Jamil's recipes, for those that don't want to shell out for the book. (Jamil has mentioned this site on his show so he's cool with these being posted on this site):

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The recipes in the book are all updated. Some have changed.

I do not think the recipes from the podcasts since the book was published have been posted on that website. (They might just be behind.)
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Old 10-08-2008, 03:38 AM   #12
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I don't know the book was made for extract so it's nice that he even added the grain bill for all grain. I for one am not complaining it's easy to put the recipes into beer smith or promash.

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Old 10-08-2008, 03:59 AM   #13
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So they're all Jamil's award winning recipes that he brewed many many times to get right. He's an all grain brewer. The book lists them as extract centric and all grain marginalized. Nothing odd about it huh.

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Old 10-08-2008, 04:01 AM   #14
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I like the book...

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Old 10-08-2008, 04:46 AM   #15
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The only thing thats odd is that your complaining about a book that was made for extract brewers that has also included the all grain bills as well.

The Book is not an all grain book it's for extract brewers so if you want an easier layout buy an all grain book.

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Old 10-08-2008, 11:33 AM   #16
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So they're all Jamil's award winning recipes that he brewed many many times to get right. He's an all grain brewer. The book lists them as extract centric and all grain marginalized. Nothing odd about it huh.
No, there not all his recipes he has said this many times over. What they all are is award winning recipes.
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I've found it odd, yes...I'd much rather see something like two separate but equal versions...but that having been said, at the end of the day, it's 6 of one and half a dozen of another. Unless you want to bring a civil rights suit on behalf of AG brewing...

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I'm with Bobby_M here. Its really annoying.
As a (currently) extract brewer, I'm not really motivated to go reverse engineering a recipe to convert it to AG.
I guess if I was really interested in one, I could just pop it into BeerSmith. I think Bobby's point is that you shouldn't have to do that. The book's authors should have done it. Its not like it is hard to cut & paste the recipe and simply replace out the grain bill for the extract (or vice versa).

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Just picked up this book the other day. I agree with Bobby that there is definite extract bias with the AG recipes almost an afterthought. There are noticeable(expected) stylistic similarities between this co-authored text and the recipe section in Palmer's How To Brew.

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I like the book and am trying a couple of the recipes. I can understand that its a pain for the AG brewer. I think that sometimes the base malt to use isn't the simplest thing to figure out. Especially when there are multiple base malts including munich and vienna and etc... As Radical Brewing points out, you just can't brew every beer without a mash. Mosher doesn't give recipes for those that can't be done extract. Whether JZ and JP are saying Mosher is wrong, I don't know. I haven't the books in front of me.

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