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MMW 06-02-2009 04:01 PM

Mostly Dead Guy Ale
 
I'm not looking for an exact Dead Guy clone (I'd brew Yooper's recipe without hesitation if I were--it is the basis for this recipe), but something similar: a traditional bock brewed at the low end of ale temps with a great ale yeast. My next brew will be Centennial Blonde with Pacman, so I'm planning to pitch on that cake when it's done.

Please take a look:

Mostly Dead Guy Ale
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Brewer: MMW
Style: Traditional Bock
Batch: 5.50 gal Partial Mash

Characteristics
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Recipe Gravity: 1.067 OG
Recipe Bitterness: 26 IBU
Recipe Color: 16 SRM
Estimated FG: 1.017
Alcohol by Volume: 6.5%
Alcohol by Weight: 5.1%

Ingredients
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Maris Otter Malt 4.60 lb, Grain, Mashed
German Munich 2.00 lb, Grain, Mashed
German vienna 2.00 lb, Grain, Mashed
Roasted barley 0.25 lb, Grain, Mashed
Light malt extract 3.30 lb, Extract, Extract

Perle 1.00 oz, Pellet, 60 minutes
Perle 0.50 oz, Pellet, 30 minutes
Perle 0.25 oz, Pellet, 0 minutes
Saaz 0.25 oz, Pellet, 0 minutes


I have the LME in there right now since I'm grain limited to ~9lbs with my current setup. My goal is a rich, malty bock at the low end of the style with a red, red color. I'm very open to suggestions on the hops, both quantity and variety...I don't think I'm through futzing with them yet (I'll probably tweak the IBUs down a tad). Thoughts?

MMW 06-02-2009 05:17 PM

Come to think of it, Mostly Dead Guy Ale should go Dunkel, not Bock, right?

Another thought:
Mostly Dead Guy Ale - take 2
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Brewer: MMW
Style: Munich Dunkel
Batch: 5.50 galPartial Mash

Characteristics
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Recipe Gravity: 1.050 OG
Recipe Bitterness: 20 IBU
Recipe Color: 15 SRM
Estimated FG: 1.013
Alcohol by Volume: 4.9%
Alcohol by Weight: 3.8%

Ingredients
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German Munich 1.50 lb, Grain, Mashed
German vienna 1.50 lb, Grain, Mashed
Maris Otter Malt 5.00 lb, Grain, Mashed
Roasted barley 0.25 lb, Grain, Mashed
Light D.M.E. 1.00 lb, Extract, Extract

Perle 0.75 oz, Pellet, 60 minutes
Perle 0.25 oz, Pellet, 30 minutes
Perle 0.25 oz, Pellet, 0 minutes
Saaz 0.25 oz, Pellet, 0 minutes

Still looking for a malty beer with a red-copper color.

humann_brewing 06-02-2009 05:26 PM

This should be a nice beer. I know you are not trying to replicate Dead Guy here, but you have the munich percentage about right. John was on the Sunday brew session on the brewing network a couple of years ago and said he had 20% munich in Dead guy. Also the IBU is supposedly at 40 so you will definitely be more malty but that is what you are going for so rock on :rockin:

MMW 06-02-2009 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humann_brewing (Post 1358803)
This should be a nice beer. I know you are not trying to replicate Dead Guy here, but you have the munich percentage about right. John was on the Sunday brew session on the brewing network a couple of years ago and said he had 20% munich in Dead guy. Also the IBU is supposedly at 40 so you will definitely be more malty but that is what you are going for so rock on :rockin:

:eek: I don't recall Dead Guy being that hoppy-- I would have thought it to end up in the 'evenly balanced' category. Oh well, must be an excuse to buy another 6 pack. Research, ya know...







at least that's what I'll tell SWMBO

EvilTOJ 06-02-2009 07:33 PM

Dead Guy Ale is made in the style of a maibock with Pacman yeast instead of bock lager yeast.

humann_brewing 06-02-2009 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMW (Post 1358938)
:eek: I don't recall Dead Guy being that hoppy-- I would have thought it to end up in the 'evenly balanced' category. Oh well, must be an excuse to buy another 6 pack. Research, ya know...







at least that's what I'll tell SWMBO

That is what I thought too but it may be because of all the Munich balancing it

MMW 06-02-2009 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humann_brewing (Post 1359120)
That is what I thought too but it may be because of all the Munich balancing it

It is indeed 40 IBU (go figure...actually look something up! me! Ha!) That's interesting. I may need to UP the hops a little to get it where I want it to be.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvilTOJ (Post 1359105)
Dead Guy Ale is made in the style of a maibock with Pacman yeast instead of bock lager yeast.

Yup...so it is. Kind of walking the line between the two styles, though. Higher hops like a maibock with the darker color of a true bock. For whatever reason I missed the hops when I drank it but noted the color. Guess that's where I got off the path a bit.

Hmmmmmm...time to tinker with the recipe some more.

MMW 06-02-2009 08:09 PM

OK. I'm liking the Dunkel version of this as I work it out in my head.

Here it is:
Mostly Dead Guy Ale - take 3
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Brewer: MMW
Style: Munich Dunkel
Batch: 5.50 gal Partial Mash

Characteristics
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Recipe Gravity: 1.050 OG
Recipe Bitterness: 29 IBU
Recipe Color: 15 SRM
Estimated FG: 1.013
Alcohol by Volume: 4.8%
Alcohol by Weight: 3.8%

Ingredients
-----------
Maris Otter Malt 4.50 lb, Grain, Mashed
German Munich 2.00 lb, Grain, Mashed
German vienna 1.50 lb, Grain, Mashed
Roasted barley 0.25 lb, Grain, Mashed
Light D.M.E. 1.00 lb, Extract, Extract

Perle 0.50 oz, Pellet, 60 minutes
Perle 0.50 oz, Pellet, 40 minutes
Perle 0.50 oz, Pellet, 30 minutes
Saaz 0.25 oz, Pellet, 0 minutes

This should yield a OG/IBU ratio of 1.72 vs. 1.65 for DGA (if my math is right) but in a package that should be a little more drinkable on a hot late summer day (that goes through October around here!) than the original. Hopefully the roasted barley will add a little red to the color without going overboard on roasted/smoke flavors. Sound good?

DeathBrewer 06-02-2009 08:14 PM

Mostly dead, eh?

http://www.geocities.com/mermaid9_99/pbride/max1.jpg

The recipe looks pretty good, although I think you might be light on the bittering. What is the alpha acid content of your hops?

MMW 06-02-2009 08:22 PM

Yes...mostly dead is partly alive.

6.9% for the Perle and 7.7% for the Saaz. But, then again, I'm open to suggestions.


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