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Old 02-18-2013, 07:02 PM   #71
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Founders Centennial IPA is delicious as well.
Love Founders. Don't care for that beer. That is the only one specifically I can think of by them that I don't like.


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Old 02-18-2013, 07:10 PM   #72
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Citra is overrated IMO.

Rakau is under-rated. Absolutely beautiful notes on that hop. Probably one of the very few NZ hops that I really love.



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Old 02-18-2013, 07:19 PM   #73
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Just made a Nelson Sauvin, Simcoe, Citra IIPA and I'm telling you the Nelson has rendered it almost undrinkable. I've loved most NZ hops to this point, but Nelson has done me wrong. I'll let the keg age a little longer and see how it tastes in a couple weeks.

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Old 02-18-2013, 07:37 PM   #74
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Underrated: cluster, nugget and brewer's gold. Many of the most aromatic beers I've drank have had cluster and/or nugget in them at some point. Plus they don't get all the overpowering (and hard to graft) flavours of, say, amarillo, simcoe, citra or nelson sauvin. And brewer's gold is just incredible: red fruit, peach, NO citrus, NO grapefruit!

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Old 02-18-2013, 08:16 PM   #75
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Just made a Nelson Sauvin, Simcoe, Citra IIPA and I'm telling you the Nelson has rendered it almost undrinkable. I've loved most NZ hops to this point, but Nelson has done me wrong. I'll let the keg age a little longer and see how it tastes in a couple weeks.
Bought a pd of nelson after this years crop came out and boy am i pissed, didnt spend to much on it just dont like it as a late addition just takes away from everything else.

Underrated hop would have to be Nugget, love its clean bittering and versitile play in the boil

Overrated i would have to say Nelson, way to overpowering.
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Bought a pd of nelson after this years crop came out and boy am i pissed, didnt spend to much on it just dont like it as a late addition just takes away from everything else.

Underrated hop would have to be Nugget, love its clean bittering and versitile play in the boil

Overrated i would have to say Nelson, way to overpowering.
Exactly my thoughts. If I use it again, it'll be strictly for up front bittering. No way am I letting it take precedence as either a late addition or dry hop ever again. Btw, if you read the New Zealand Hop Growers website on Nelson Sauvin, even they say to use it "judiciously".
http://www.nzhops.co.nz/varieties/nelson_sauvin.html

Goddamn Kiwis with their rotten fruit flavored hops.
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I don't hate Nelson, though... it's just that about every brewery has something going on with it and half of them taste exactly the same!

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Nugget is many of my favorite brews.

Wish I could get Nugget Nectar out here. I might have to try a Nugget SMaSH or Nectar clone.

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I will go on record as saying Zeus is underrated--so underrated, in fact, that it gets grouped into a lineage it is not: http://beerlegends.com/zeus-hops

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Zeus Hops, although genetically different, gets shuffled into the CTZ group of Hops. CTZ stands for Columbus, Tomahawk, and Zeus.
I wish I could find "Zeus" hops again, but everything I find is "Columbus."

I'm one of those that gets "cat piss" from Simcoe, so mark that up as overrated for me. I've wondered if it's the high myrcene content, and have avoided some others, perhaps unfairly, for that reason.

This thread is great for making me realize how many hops I need to try. Need to break the Cascade-as-house-hop attitude. Not that there's anything wrong with Cascade!
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I wish I could find "Zeus" hops again, but everything I find is "Columbus."
Go nuts. Here's a Zeus rhizome on eBay.


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