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Old 05-05-2013, 08:53 PM   #1
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Default Mosaic/Nelson Sauvin Pairing

Has anybody tried pairing these two hops before? I'm interested in what your experiences may have been. I haven't used Mosaic before but really liked Great Lakes Alchemy Hour Double IPA that showcases this hop. I have paired Citra and Nelson in an IPA and had good results...I'm considering maybe equal amounts of Citra, Nelson, and Mosaic in an imperial IPA recipe. Any thoughts on this?

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Wow...so I'll be the first person ever to try this hop combo?

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Mosaic is a pretty new hop and Nelson Sauvin is sometimes hard to get, so there is a good chance nobody has tried this combo yet.

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I've got 3oz of so of Nelly in the freezer....

Could always pick up some mosaic if you have some good results

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I've got 3oz of so of Nelly in the freezer....

Could always pick up some mosaic if you have some good results
I'll let you know. I'll brew it later this week and post my recipe once I've decided on a few details I still have to iron out...then I'll post my results once it's done. If Mosaic is a fruity hop like Citra, and Citra and Nelson pair well together...you know where I'm going with this. We'll see.
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My experience with Mosaic was that it was actually fruitier and less piney than even Citra...most places describe it as tropical fruit but it was more like pink grapefruit for me. I just brewed a batch of 1-gallon beers with a simple grain bill and only a single flavor/aroma hop to test them, and Mosaic and Citra were among them.

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I made a nelson/ mosaic apa. Used way more mosaic than nelson but, the nelson still comes through. Mosaic seems to change. Mine reminded me of a fruity simcoe. To me, nelson has a sharp flavor that I don't care for as much. The apa is good but, I would have rather used citra instead of nelson. Just my 2 cents. Mosiac is awesome though.

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I made a nelson/ mosaic apa. Used way more mosaic than nelson but, the nelson still comes through. Mosaic seems to change. Mine reminded me of a fruity simcoe. To me, nelson has a sharp flavor that I don't care for as much. The apa is good but, I would have rather used citra instead of nelson. Just my 2 cents. Mosiac is awesome though.
I love Nelson, but it's definitely one of those polarizing hops that people tend to really like or not like too much at all. If you don't like Nelson don't brew the recipe I'm about to post because there's a good amount of it in there.
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Type: All Grain Date: 5/8/2013
Batch Size (fermenter): 6.00 gal Brewer: Dave
Boil Size: 9.28 gal Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 60 min Equipment: Stainless Kegs (10 Gal/37.8 L) - All Grain
End of Boil Volume 7.28 gal Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Final Bottling Volume: 5.25 gal Est Mash Efficiency 87.5 %
Fermentation: Ale, Two Stage Taste Rating(out of 50): 30.0
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Ingredients
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
14 lbs 2.7 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 81.8 %
12.7 oz Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 2 4.6 %
12.7 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 3 4.6 %
12.7 oz Munich Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 4 4.6 %
6.1 oz Honey Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 5 2.2 %
6.1 oz White Wheat Malt (2.4 SRM) Grain 6 2.2 %
0.75 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 7 26.2 IBUs
0.33 oz Citra [14.10 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 8 7.0 IBUs
0.33 oz Mosaic [12.70 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 9 6.3 IBUs
0.33 oz Nelson Sauvin [12.50 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 10 6.2 IBUs
0.33 oz Citra [14.10 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 11 5.8 IBUs
0.33 oz Mosaic [12.70 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 12 5.2 IBUs
0.33 oz Nelson Sauvin [12.50 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 13 5.1 IBUs
0.33 oz Citra [14.10 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 14 4.2 IBUs
0.33 oz Mosaic [12.70 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 15 3.8 IBUs
0.33 oz Nelson Sauvin [12.50 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 16 3.7 IBUs
0.33 oz Citra [14.10 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 17 2.3 IBUs
0.33 oz Mosaic [12.70 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 18 2.1 IBUs
0.33 oz Nelson Sauvin [12.50 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 19 2.1 IBUs
0.66 oz Citra [14.10 %] - Aroma Steep 0.0 min Hop 20 0.0 IBUs
0.66 oz Mosaic [12.70 %] - Aroma Steep 0.0 min Hop 21 0.0 IBUs
0.66 oz Nelson Sauvin [12.50 %] - Aroma Steep 0.0 min Hop 22 0.0 IBUs
1.0 pkg California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) [35.49 ml] Yeast 23 -
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.70 %] - Dry Hop 10.0 Days Hop 24 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Citra [14.10 %] - Dry Hop 10.0 Days Hop 25 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Mosaic [12.70 %] - Dry Hop 10.0 Days Hop 26 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Nelson Sauvin [12.50 %] - Dry Hop 10.0 Days Hop 27 0.0 IBUs

Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.078 SG Measured Original Gravity: 1.046 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.014 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.010 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 8.5 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 4.7 %
Bitterness: 80.0 IBUs Calories: 151.6 kcal/12oz
Est Color: 6.2 SRM
Mash Profile

Mash Name: Single Infusion, Light Body, No Mash Out Total Grain Weight: 17 lbs 5.0 oz
Sparge Water: 5.95 gal Grain Temperature: 72.0 F
Sparge Temperature: 168.0 F Tun Temperature: 72.0 F
Adjust Temp for Equipment: TRUE Mash PH: 5.20

Mash Steps
Name Description Step Temperature Step Time
Mash In Add 25.64 qt of water at 162.4 F 150.0 F 75 min

Sparge Step: Fly sparge with 5.95 gal water at 168.0 F
Mash Notes: Simple single infusion mash for use with most modern well modified grains (about 95% of the time).
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Looks solid just make sure you have enough yeast and make sure it's happy throughout the fermentation and it will be tasty

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