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Old 05-07-2013, 11:33 AM   #1
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Following an experiment to isolate IPA hop flavors in 1-gallon batches, I decided I really liked the bright, fruity flavors of Mosaic and want to brew an IPA featuring them. Here's the recipe as it currently stands:

1lb 20L Crystal (steeped)(body, color, head retention)
1lb Cara-Pils (steeped)(body, head)
1lb light dry extract (60 min)
6lbs light dry extract (15 min late addition)
.5oz US Magnum (60 min)
1oz Mosaic (15 min)
1oz Mosaic (10 min)
1oz Mosaic (5 min)
1oz Mosaic (flame-out)
1oz Mosaic (dry hop)
Yeast: either Wyeast 1056 or WLP001 (to accentuate the hops).

This is similar to the test batch I made, with the addition of the crystal and dry hops and with quantities adjusted for style (Beersmith puts it smack-dab in the middle of style guidelines).

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Looks pretty good. If you've got the crystal 20 in there, I don't think you need the carapils also. But I also don't think it will necessarily hurt anything.
If you want to isolate the Mosaic, why the Magnum for bittering? The Mosaic I got this year was pretty high alpha. You should be able to bitter with it easily and stick to just one hop.
I recently tapped a 6% pale ale that I made with all Mosaic and it turned out fantastic. I think you'll be pleased.

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You're currently at 11% crystal and 11% carapils. Cut the crystal by half and nix the carapils completely... it is not needed since it is already included in the DME. IPA's shouldn't have 22% cara- malts, especially not extract IPAs.

Agreed on using Mosaic to bitter. Additionally, use more hops overall and gradually increase your hop additions later in the boil. More potency will be released and upheld with a heavier focus on the flameout/whirlpool and particularly the dryhop. E.g. 0.5 oz @ 60, 1.5 oz. @ 10, 2.5 oz. @ 0, 3.5 oz. @ dryhop = 8 oz total hops.

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That's a good point; I hadn't considered bittering with Mosaic. When I was making my test batches I wanted a stable base I could use for all the beers, so I went with Magnum to minimize the flavor contributions of the bittering hop.

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Another vote for cutting a lot of that crystal. I usually do 3-5% for an IPA, if any.

I just floated a keg of a Maris Otter/Mosaic SMaSH over the weekend and it was really, really delicious. I thought the Mosaic worked really well for bittering so you may want to give it a shot.

Have fun with the brew and enjoy.

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Wow, I was way off with my Mosaic--I had been told they were 5%AA, but Northern Brewer lists them at 10%+ and USAHops has them at 11.5-13.5%AA. I eliminated the bittering hops altogether, and the following hop schedule left me at 52.6 IBU: 0.5oz @ 15, 1.5oz @ 10, 1oz @ 5, 2.5oz @ 0, 3.5 dry-hop (9oz total, and effectively hop-bursted).

Does that look reasonable? Would you suggest the 1056 or WLP001 for a fruity hoppy IPA?

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That looks awesome - it's definitely going to be fruity with 3.5oz in the dry hop. I used US-05 and got great clean flavor, so 1056 would be good. I think either one would make a nice beer though. If it were me, I'd just pick which ever one I thought would floc/clear up better.

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Depends on your OG/FG for the total oz. of hops. I wouldn't use 9 oz. hops for 1.053 OG but I would for 1.067 OG. It also depends on what you're seeking from the beer... hop juice with low bitterness or something with some bite and still awesome aroma. I'd also simplify the hop timing/amounts as much as I could instead of worrying about 6 or 7 different additions.

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OK, I think I'm pretty dialed-in now...though I'm tempted to switch out the light DME for Maris Otter LME! It looks like Northern Brewer just came out with an LME called "Super Structure Malt Blend for IPA" too.

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Don't switch out the light DME. I'd even go with extra light DME. Maris Otter will completely change it. It won't be bad, but it will be more to style with extra light DME and sugar.

Are you ditching the carapils and cutting down on the crystal? Extract beers never have issues with body or head retention. Carapils is included in the extract and 5% crystal 20 will take care of the rest.

I also just noticed this, but you're adding 6# of DME at 15 minutes and 1# at 60? I would do half and half.

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