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Old 06-05-2014, 01:10 AM   #1
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So I've made two wheat now. And they were both kind of bland. My other beers come out great, but my wheat beers just seem pretty boring. I've had wheats that were good (commercial) are their key ingredients that you guys put into your wheats or do I need to accept the style more for what it is?

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Old 06-05-2014, 01:21 AM   #2
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Hi Ron,

What were the wheat recipes and styles of the 2 wheats you have already made? This will help me to answer your Q in the right direction for what you could do with them or what you could try next for another wheat beer.

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Old 06-05-2014, 04:03 AM   #3
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ok, here's the first one I made

Recipe: Celis TYPE: All Grain
Style: Witbier
---RECIPE SPECIFICATIONS-----------------------------------------------
SRM: 4.1 SRM SRM RANGE: 2.0-4.0 SRM
IBU: 15.3 IBUs Tinseth IBU RANGE: 10.0-20.0 IBUs
OG: 1.050 SG OG RANGE: 1.044-1.052 SG
FG: 1.012 SG FG RANGE: 1.008-1.012 SG
BU:GU: 0.309 Calories: 2263.3 kcal/12oz Est ABV: 5.0 %
EE%: 72.00 % Batch: 5.00 gal Boil: 6.52 gal BT: 60 Mins


Amt Name Type # %/IBU
1 lbs Rice Hulls (0.0 SRM) Adjunct 1 9.8 %
4 lbs 8.0 oz Pilsner (2 Row) Bel (2.0 SRM) Grain 2 43.9 %
3 lbs White Wheat Malt (2.4 SRM) Grain 3 29.3 %
1 lbs 8.0 oz Wheat, Flaked (1.6 SRM) Grain 4 14.6 %
4.0 oz Aromatic Malt (26.0 SRM) Grain 5 2.4 %

Total Grain Weight: 10 lbs 4.0 oz Total Hops: 1.00 oz oz.

Est Pre_Boil Gravity: 1.044 SG Est OG: 1.050 SG
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
0.75 oz Willamette [5.50 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 6 14.4 IBUs
0.25 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 7 1.0 IBUs
pitched forbidden fruit with this one can't remember the proper name

and the second one was this

Recipe: Orange American Wheat TYPE: All Grain
Style: Weizen/Weissbier (Wheat Beer)
---RECIPE SPECIFICATIONS-----------------------------------------------
SRM: 4.2 SRM SRM RANGE: 2.0-8.0 SRM
IBU: 28.5 IBUs Tinseth IBU RANGE: 8.0-15.0 IBUs
OG: 1.054 SG OG RANGE: 1.044-1.052 SG
FG: 1.011 SG FG RANGE: 1.010-1.014 SG
BU:GU: 0.525 Calories: 151.6 kcal/12oz Est ABV: 5.6 %
EE%: 72.00 % Batch: 5.00 gal Boil: 6.52 gal BT: 60 Mins

Amt Name Type # %/IBU
4 lbs 8.0 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 45.0 %
4 lbs 8.0 oz White Wheat Malt (2.4 SRM) Grain 2 45.0 %
8.0 oz Wheat, Flaked (1.6 SRM) Grain 4 5.0 %
8.0 oz Munich Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 3 5.0 %

Total Grain Weight: 10 lbs Total Hops: 2.00 oz oz.

Est Pre_Boil Gravity: 1.048 SG Est OG: 1.054 SG
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
1.00 oz Hallertauer [4.80 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 5 16.1 IBUs
1.00 oz Hallertauer [4.80 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 6 12.4 IBUs
3.00 oz Orange Peel, Sweet (Boil 5.0 mins) Spice 7 -
US05 with this one.

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Old 06-05-2014, 10:35 AM   #4
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So I've made two wheat now. And they were both kind of bland. My other beers come out great, but my wheat beers just seem pretty boring. I've had wheats that were good (commercial) are their key ingredients that you guys put into your wheats or do I need to accept the style more for what it is?
I think the latter, depending on what you mean when you say, "My other beers come out great, but my wheat beers just seem pretty boring."

What were those other beers? If they were more flavorful than American Wheat tends to be - like pretty much any style other than American Wheat - you just have to accept American Wheat for what it is. Not every beer has to be or can be a flavor bomb.

American Wheat is a fairly bland style, especially when compared to the kind of beers we beer nerds tend to love to explore. That's why you can walk into pretty much any brewpub and find American Wheat as the "training wheels" beer.

Still, American Wheat is an enjoyable style. I find it quite refreshing.

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Old 06-05-2014, 03:00 PM   #5
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Wheats are good and good to share with friends. I understand they're not DIPA'S or anything, but they've got to have more to offer than what I've gotten out of the previous two. Maybe I will just keep the grain bills and hops and spice them up. I like how dry they are, it's a good, "****, it's hot outside beer" that we need here in florida

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Old 06-05-2014, 03:53 PM   #6
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A Bavarian hefeweizen might be what you're looking for.

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Old 06-05-2014, 04:11 PM   #7
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Your description is too vague. What commercial beers is it you like?

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The big one that comes to mind is Bell's Oberon. that beer is awesome, and I can't seem to find a clone for it either.

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Forbidden Fruit left you with a bland beer?! Something went wrong, that yeast leaves a ton of fruity esters behind, anything but bland. Maybe your efficiency was lower than expected?

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That beer was definitely better than the most recent one I did. Think I put some coriander in that one too

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