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dfohio 10-05-2009 08:22 PM

Mild Ale help
 
I have a problem. I only have 5 pounds of 2-row left. My 200 pounds of grain for the future won't be in for about a month.

So, I figure I'll brew a mild. The problem is I know nothing about mild's besides reading Orfy's recipe.

I already have a nut brown and an oatmeal stout available, so I don't want a beer that resembles that. That is why I have chosen not to use Orfy's mild recipe.

I have pretty much all of the crystal malts, victory, a bunch of carapils which I would like to to get rid of and pounds of hops; just no 2-row.

I figure I could make a pale mild with plenty of victory, c-60, carapils and willamette.

Does anyone have experience with something like this? Or a different idea altogether?

david_42 10-05-2009 08:56 PM

A Mild will taste very different from either of the beers you have.

Here's one from the Mild Ale book (c. 1824) that's good:

5 lbs 2 -row
6 lbs carapils (or a mix of carapils and victory)
1.25 lbs C40L

14 AAU at 90 minutes (the recipe calls for 3.33 oz of Golding, but Fuggle would work)

Mash 152F

This is an older, higher ABV Mild, before Milds became session ales in the 1930s.

KingBrianI 10-05-2009 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by david_42 (Post 1590317)
A Mild will taste very different from either of the beers you have.

Here's one from the Mild Ale book (c. 1824) that's good:

5 lbs 2 -row
6 lbs carapils (or a mix of carapils and victory)
1.25 lbs C40L

14 AAU at 90 minutes (the recipe calls for 3.33 oz of Golding, but Fuggle would work)

Mash 152F

This is an older, higher ABV Mild, before Milds became session ales in the 1930s.

surely you mean ounces?!

dfohio 10-06-2009 02:30 PM

This is what I came up with. I imagine it should work without any roasty flavors from chocolate malt.

Batch Size: 5.50 gal
Boil Size: 7.00 gal
Estimated OG: 1.034 SG
Estimated Color: 12.2 SRM
Estimated IBU: 16.6 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
------------
Amount Item Type % or IBU
5.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 71.43 %
1.00 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 14.29 %
0.50 lb Victory Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 7.14 %
0.25 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 3.57 %
0.25 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 3.57 %
1.25 oz Williamette [3.50 %] (60 min) Hops 16.6 IBU


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge 156 F

flyangler18 10-06-2009 02:52 PM

The amount of crystal malt in that recipe seems excessive, to the point of being cloying.

I don't like to exceed a pound of crystal combined in a 5 gallon batch, personally; while Mild can have a hint of sweetness, the amount contributed from 1.5 pounds would be too much to bear, IMO.

Mild is one of my absolute favorite styles - and it's very much in danger of extinction in England.

A Pale Mild would be quite nice - something like 80% pale malt and 20% Victory to around 1.035 and 16 IBUs.

dfohio 10-06-2009 03:44 PM

See I thought that the crystal was excessive at first but now I'm confused because most recipes I have looked at have at least 1 pound of crystal in them. I'm not afraid to leave crystal completely out, but I do want to be close to style.

Possibly 75% pale, 15% victory, 10% crystal 60 to 1.033 at 16 IBU?

FishinDave07 10-06-2009 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by david_42 (Post 1590317)
Here's one from the Mild Ale book (c. 1824) that's good:

5 lbs 2 -row
6 lbs carapils (or a mix of carapils and victory)
1.25 lbs C40L

14 AAU at 90 minutes (the recipe calls for 3.33 oz of Golding, but Fuggle would work)

Mash 152F

My face when i saw that was like KingBrianI avatar :drunk:

flyangler18 10-06-2009 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dfohio (Post 1591849)
See I thought that the crystal was excessive at first but now I'm confused because most recipes I have looked at have at least 1 pound of crystal in them. I'm not afraid to leave crystal completely out, but I do want to be close to style.

Possibly 75% pale, 15% victory, 10% crystal 60 to 1.033 at 16 IBU?

What recipes are you referencing? I can't say that I've ever seen a Mild recipe with that much crystal, so I'm curious.

As far as style, there isn't one for pale mild according to the BJCP as of yet. The only Mild recognized is 11A: Dark Mild i.e Orfy's Mild Mannered Ale and my own March Brown Mild. With that in mind, you're charting new territory of sorts. ;)

I think the recipe you've indicated would make a fine drinking pint!

flyangler18 10-06-2009 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FishinDave07 (Post 1591866)
My face when i saw that was like KingBrianI avatar :drunk:

Remember, this is a throwback historic recipe - completely different from what our 21st century tastebuds are used to. ;)

Some Milds were 7-8% ABV and sweet - exactly what the locals wanted.

dfohio 10-06-2009 04:31 PM

Well, I plan on brewing the 75% pale, 15% victory, and 10% C-60 at 1.033 and 16 IBU. I agree it should be a simple, fine drinking beer.


Quote:

Originally Posted by flyangler18 (Post 1591870)
What recipes are you referencing? I can't say that I've ever seen a Mild recipe with that much crystal, so I'm curious.

Orfy's Mild Mannered lists 1.6 lb, Jamil's dark mild uses 1.25 lb and pale uses 1lb according to beerdujour.com. Most others contained 1 lb but all were dark milds.


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