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Old 01-29-2013, 02:49 PM   #1
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Default Maine Beer Co. Peeper Ale clone?

I LOVE THIS BEER! If you've had it then you know what I'm talking about

SWMBO has been on me to try a Peeper clone for my next brew; the only problem is that there are virtually no clone attempts by others HBers to work off of. The best help comes from Maine Beer's website:

Our original hoppy American ale. Dry, clean, well-balanced with a generous dose of American hops.

Vitals:

Color – Golden

ABV – 5.5%

O.G. – 1.047

Malt – American 2-Row, CaraPils, Vienna, Red Wheat

Hops – US Magnum, Amarillo, Cascade, Centennial

...Now I am still very much a noob at this hobby, but if I was to guesstimate a grain bill based off of these vitals it'd go something like

70% 2-Row
15% Vienna
10% red wheat
5% carapils

This beer is pure west coast-style hop nirvana, but with minimal bitterness, so I'm gonna assume there's quite a bit of "hop bursting" going on.

60min - Magnum (small charge/.25oz for 5gal)
10min - 1oz Centennial
5min - .75oz each Amarillo + Cascade
30min hop steep - .75oz each Amarillo, Cent + Cascade
DH - 1oz each Cent + Amarillo

This whole hopping schedule is just a wild guess (like my grain bill).

Maine Beer states an OG of 1.047 with a 5.5%ABV. My math sucks but thats gotta be over 80% attenuation!?! If this is true, then they are probably using an aggressive strain like Pacman, no? I've had WLP001 get to 80% once but I think it was a fluke.

If anyone out there in HBT Land has either had Peeper or attempted a clone and can shed light on the subject, then I'd love to hear from ya.

Cheers!

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Posted this a few days ago... You probably saw it. Looking for the same on Zoe.

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/main...ttempt-384287/

My guesses are: Less than 8% Vienna, Less than 8% Red Wheat, Less than 4% CaraPils.

It appears 1.047 / 1.005 would yield 5.5% abv. A lofty goal, but attainable if your processes are sound... especially with 0% crystal malt in the recipe. Do a long, low mash and add enough fresh, healthy, high attenuating, moderate floc yeast (Peeper is a tad cloudy) into highly oxygenated wort. Ferment in the low to mid 60s then raise to upper 60s when fermentation slows.

A 60/5/0/DH schedule would probably be best for Peeper. Aroma steep of Amarillo & Centennial. Dryhop = 2.5 oz. for 5 gallons. Don't go overboard on the Amarillo in the dryhop, as things may get quite fruity -- Cascade would be the DH majority, followed by Centennial, and a touch of Amarillo.

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Their Lunch IPA has a similar 'more than you would expect' low terminal gravity. My guess is they use a high attenuating and clean ale strain, and like to mash in the 140's for the sacc step.

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Posted this a few days ago... You probably saw it. Looking for the same on Zoe.

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/main...ttempt-384287/

My guesses are: Less than 8% Vienna, Less than 8% Red Wheat, Less than 4% CaraPils.

It appears 1.047 / 1.005 would yield 5.5% abv. A lofty goal, but attainable if your processes are sound... especially with 0% crystal malt in the recipe. Do a long, low mash and add enough fresh, healthy, high attenuating, moderate floc yeast (Peeper is a tad cloudy) into highly oxygenated wort. Ferment in the low to mid 60s then raise to upper 60s when fermentation slows.

A 60/5/0/DH schedule would probably be best for Peeper. Aroma steep of Amarillo & Centennial. Dryhop = 2.5 oz. for 5 gallons. Don't go overboard on the Amarillo in the dryhop, as things may get quite fruity -- Cascade would be the DH majority, followed by Centennial, and a touch of Amarillo.
Yes I think I did see your thread in my googlings. Maine Beer is quickly becoming one of my fave micros. Peeper is certainly delicious IMO as is Mean Old Tom. I haven't had Zoe yet. I'll have to pick up a bottle on my next beer run... I won't argue your suggestions for the hop schedule. I've followed your suggestions with other beers and have been VERY happy with the results... I'm stumped with the yeast though. 001 has never let me down so I'll probably just step up a big starter and pitch that... How low is low for the mash? 148* for 75mins?
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A 60/5/0/DH schedule would probably be best for Peeper. Aroma steep of Amarillo & Centennial. Dryhop = 2.5 oz. for 5 gallons. Don't go overboard on the Amarillo in the dryhop, as things may get quite fruity -- Cascade would be the DH majority, followed by Centennial, and a touch of Amarillo.
Hey Bob, what do ya think for something like this? I may brew thing in the next two weeks

80% 2-row
6% Vienna
5% Red Wheat
5% carapils

Mash 140* for 90mins, raise to 156* for 15mins, mash out, sparge at 168*

60min - .25oz Warrior - 15AA - I know Maine uses Magnum, but I have much Warrior in the freezer

5min - 1oz Cascade - 5.5AA
5min - .5oz Centennial - 10AA
5min - .25oz Amarillo - 7AA

Hop Steep 30mins - 1oz Centennial - 10AA
Hop Steep 30mins - 1oz Amarillo - 7AA

DH 7days - 1.25oz Cascade - 5.5AA
DH 7days - .75 oz Centennial - 10AA
DH 7days - .5oz Amarillo - 7AA

2L starter - WLP001/ ferment at 64* 7days/ raise to 69* for 2wks/ DH at 21days
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80% 2-row
6% Vienna
5% Red Wheat
5% carapils
That's good. Maybe reduce the carapils a bit more for the sake of more wheat. Where's the other 4%? Add it to the base malt or use corn sugar. Your call.

Hop schedule is good.

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Mash 140* for 90mins, raise to 156* for 15mins, mash out, sparge at 168*
I would do something more like 145 F for 60, 148-149 F for 20.

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2L starter - WLP001/ ferment at 64* 7days/ raise to 69* for 2wks/ DH at 21days
Ferment at 62-66 F 10 days, raising temp gradually. Then raise to 68 F and DH for 7 days. Bottle on day 21.
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Peeper is delicious! MO is another favorite of mine from MBC. My local draft house has had both recently. Needless to say..neither lasted long! I'll be keeping an eye on this thread, would make a great house beer!

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Where's the other 4%?
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Peeper is delicious! MO is another favorite of mine from MBC. My local draft house has had both recently. Needless to say..neither lasted long! I'll be keeping an eye on this thread, would make a great house beer!
Love your avatar, BTW. I just had some had this years NN and it is spectacular
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Love your avatar, BTW. I just had some had this years NN and it is spectacular
A buddy of mine brought me a bottle from what he picked up while in PA this weekend that I just had, so good! Can't wait to have a draft
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