Looking for this clone!

**Reverend JC** · 12-14-2006, 06:49 PM

Ok, my father in-law absolutely loves Odell brewing Co.s 5 barrel pale ale.

Does anyone know where i can find a recipe for that? i have looked everywhere i know of.

What do you think they would say to me if i called them and asked what they used in their recipe for it? Get bent? I know sometimes breweries give out ingredients just not weights of ingredients.

Where do i go from here?

uwmgdman · 12-14-2006, 07:03 PM

I went for a tour there when I was in Fort Collins back in August. It was a good place and seemed like a pretty cool bunch of guys. Give them a call, they won't tell you the recipe exactly, but I wouldn't be surprised if they tell you what types of grain/hops they use. Or like you said at the very worst, they'll tell you to get bent. If they give you what they use, a lot of us on here could maybe have an idea of proportions of each if you're unsure.

**Reverend JC** · 12-14-2006, 07:18 PM

Well, we shall find out if they tell me to get bent hopefully soon. i just fired off an email to them.

**Reverend JC** · 12-15-2006, 06:56 PM

I think this was very very nice of the folks at Odell Brewing.

Here is the email.
__________________________________________________ __________
Hi Josh,

Thank you very much for your compliment.

Here is the list of ingrdients for 5 Barrel:
Malts: Pale, ESB, Crystal, and Munich
Bittering Hop: Cascade
Finishing Hops: Fuggles, First Gold, Glacier, Willammette, and Centennial.
We use whole flower hops in the hop back and and for dry hopping 5 Barrel.
The yeast is a top-fermenting ale yeast.

Good luck with the homebrewing!

Cheers and Happy Holidays,

Joni

__________________________________________________ __________

Wow, I honestly never thought i would hear back from them. I only sent the original email yesterday.

After looking at the ingredients can i get some suggestions on amounts from the brew wizards here?

Thanks

**Reverend JC** · 12-16-2006, 03:26 PM

Bump

Nothing?!

Bird-cheese-chimone-kia-----------------and on and on. Nothing?

ok, i shall formulate and post what i am thinking.

be back!

By the way what the hell is ESB malt?

**the_bird** · 12-16-2006, 03:35 PM

Sorry, I've never had that beer before. I'm not a clone-making expert by any means. And, I've never heard of ESB malt either.

Sorry!

**Reverend JC** · 12-16-2006, 03:38 PM

im not usually a clone making guy either, but when the in-law puts in a request, especially one that takes you to canada every year for a week of fly in fishing, you make what he requests. that and i actually get along with him real well.

**Yuri_Rage** · 12-16-2006, 03:58 PM

Never had it - any idea what the color (SRM) and IBUs are? That's usually a good place to start when messing with ingredient ratios.

**Reverend JC** · 12-16-2006, 03:59 PM

no i dont, i am heading to the inlaws tomorrow and will evaluate it then. I can tell you it has about the same IBU as SNPA, which is not alot, but it has a bit more hop flavor and alot more hop aroma.

**Reverend JC** · 12-16-2006, 04:11 PM

ok, found the ESB pale malt. Here is the descritption:

Gambrinus ESB Pale
"Extra Special British" pale malt has been produced for brewers seeking a domestic malt with the unique flavor imparted by British pale malt.

Brewer's Malt Moisture
% Max. Color °L Protein
Total Max. Extrac
Dry Min. Usage
Rate %

ESB Pale 4.0--- 3-4 ---11.0 ---82.0 ---up to 100 %

what can i substitute for this so i do not have to but a 55lb bag of it incase it sucks. or should i sack up and just buy it. seems like a nice versitale malt.