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Old 07-24-2009, 05:07 PM   #1
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OK, all you experienced brewers...

The difference between an IPA and APA:
The IPA is generally stonger and has more IBUs. And the type of hops used is different between the two. APAs go with the hops like cascade that have citric and pine characteristics. I have never really done an IPA...is there more to the difference? Do the malts differentiate the two as well? This is all coming about after drinking the Ninkasi Total Domination IPA last night...that may be the best beer in the world. I am trying to figure out why it is so good.

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IPA: BJCP 2008 Style Guidelines - Category 14

APA: BJCP 2008 Style Guidelines - Category 10

Same hops (for the most part)

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It's mainly a difference of strength. The IPA is both higher gravity and more bitter than an APA.

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The only thing that separates the malt or hops is the distinction between English or American.

For me, Pale Ale is always English (thence not APA). And IPA is always American. then again that is just MY preference and not a beer "rule".

Otherwise, the distinctions just mean more (or less) of everything.

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And IPA is always American. then again that is just MY preference and not a beer "rule".
IPAs come in both American and English varieties. Ameican IPAs are an American "interpretation" of the English IPA - different hops, perhaps higher IBUs and ABV as well.

I've always looked at it this way - "traditional" or English IPAs are hopped up versions of "traditional" or English Pale Ales; American IPAs are hopped up versions of American Pale Ales (APAs). The main differences between IPAs and Pale ales are IBUs and ABVs. The main difference between American and English beers are ingredients (mainly hops, though malt to a lesser degree)

My guess is that "Total Domination" is an American IPA (brewed in the Washington, right?) - using American "C" hops with an IBU of 60 or so and an ABV on the order of 6 or 7%.

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The only thing that separates the malt or hops is the distinction between English or American.

For me, Pale Ale is always English (thence not APA). And IPA is always American. then again that is just MY preference and not a beer "rule".

Otherwise, the distinctions just mean more (or less) of everything.
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IPAs come in both American and English varieties. Ameican IPAs are an American "interpretation" of the English IPA - different hops, perhaps higher IBUs and ABV as well.
But thanks for playing.
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But thanks for playing.
I realize you were giving your opinion - I just wanted to make sure the OP realized that all IPAs are not of the American variety.

Though now that I look at the OP's signature, I'm thinking he's got things pretty well figured out!
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I realize you were giving your opinion - I just wanted to make sure the OP realized that all IPAs are not of the American variety.
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IPAs come in both American and English varieties. Ameican IPAs are an American "interpretation" of the English IPA - different hops, perhaps higher IBUs and ABV as well.

I've always looked at it this way - "traditional" or English IPAs are hopped up versions of "traditional" or English Pale Ales; American IPAs are hopped up versions of American Pale Ales (APAs). The main differences between IPAs and Pale ales are IBUs and ABVs. The main difference between American and English beers are ingredients (mainly hops, though malt to a lesser degree)

My guess is that "Total Domination" is an American IPA (brewed in the Washington, right?) - using American "C" hops with an IBU of 60 or so and an ABV on the order of 6 or 7%.
Thank you much....both of you.

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APA
Vital Statistics: OG: 1.045 – 1.060
IBUs: 30 – 45 FG: 1.010 – 1.015
SRM: 5 – 14 ABV: 4.5 – 6.2%

American IPA
Vital Statistics: OG: 1.056 – 1.075
IBUs: 40 – 70 FG: 1.010 – 1.018
SRM: 6 – 15 ABV: 5.5 – 7.5%

English IPA
Vital Statistics: OG: 1.050 – 1.075
IBUs: 40 – 60 FG: 1.010 – 1.018
SRM: 8 – 14 ABV: 5 – 7.5%

so, technically you could have a 1.057, 40 IBU beer that fits the categories for all three...

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