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Old 02-23-2006, 07:56 AM   #1
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I want to plan my next AG brew.
I've done 2 hob goblin clones so far. I like the beer and I think I'll make it my house ale.

But I'd like to try a different style. I'm not a lager boy and I don't have lagering facilities.

Can any one point me in the right direction for a Leffe clone? would I be able to usemy english pale malt as a base?

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Old 02-23-2006, 01:19 PM   #2
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There is a recipe in Beer captured for Lefe Blonde--I don't have the book but maybe someone else can post it.
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Old 02-23-2006, 01:58 PM   #3
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well, no ones really helped with my belgian blonde post, so i came up with one myself. are you wanting the leffe blonde, cause this might be similar.

9 lb. belgian pilsen
2 lb. white wheat
1/2 lb. cara-pils
1/2 lb. aromatic malt
1 lb. honey or clear candi sugar

3/4 oz. perle (60)
1/2 oz. saaz (15)

WL belgian ale yeast

thats the basics of my simple version of one of these. maybe it'll help you, not sure if it's close to style, but it comes in within the bjcp guidelines for SRM, IBU, and OG/FG. any suggestions are ppreciated.
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Thanks,

I'll see if I can get the ingredients. Does it need to be largered?
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No beer NEEDS to be lagered. You just won't get that clean, crisp lager thing without lagering.

In any event, drengels' beer is an ale. Note the yeast. Belgian beers generally have lots of interesting esters and flavors that are generated by unique ale yeasts.
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they are fermented with ale yeast, but the blonde is typically cold conditioned for a while. its a big beer (OG of 1.075), so it will need some time. the cold conditioning should round it out and make it real nice and about as easy drinking as belgians get. according to the bjcp stuff about it (look in my belgian blonde thread) this style was created to please european lager drinkers, but i think that is kind of laughable as the ale is so much more complex than ANY lager out there. i just don't see a correlation between a belgian ale thats 7% abv and highly complex tasting (but still smooth and good for a hot day) and a wimpy lager.

also- candi sugar or honey is up to you. candi sugar is traditional, but i think honey would work well. the perle can be replaced by a oz. of the more traditional styrian goldings. my idea with this is to let the yeast create the comlexity, while keeping the grain bill simple, and highlight earthy, spicy hops that will work well with the yeast i'm using. other hops i'd consider are hallertau, brewers gold, and tettnang.

i plan on using cali ale yeast for the primary, then transferring and adding honey/candi sugar and dumping the belgian ale yeast in. i want a clean, but still distinctively belgian profile with this. something that could please the knowledgable beer drinker (myself mainly), but his blonde ale drinking girlfriend would still like it.
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I recently had a Leffe, but don't know which one. It said "Leffe" on the tap handle so I drank four. Whichever one I had was practically a hefeweizen and was fantastic...definitely wouldn't need to be lagered.

Here's one dude's recipe:
http://crca.ucsd.edu/~ben/beer/leffe_blonde.php?menu=beer
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i just don't see a correlation between a belgian ale thats 7% abv and highly complex tasting (but still smooth and good for a hot day) and a wimpy lager.
Well, the blonde sounds like a wimpy Trippel. So, I imagine that's what they mean about appeasing Pilsner drinkers. Belgium has seen a big shift away from its more traditional beers and Pils is the most popular beer there now. So, the blonde style seems to be a "tweener" style between Pilsner and the more traditional beers.

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also- candi sugar or honey is up to you. candi sugar is traditional, but i think honey would work well.
What makes you think that? Just curious. But honey is not a particularly clean fermenter. I'd use candi sugar for sure.

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i plan on using cali ale yeast for the primary, then transferring and adding honey/candi sugar and dumping the belgian ale yeast in.
No matter which you use, add the honey or sugar to the primary/kettle. Candi sugar is just sucrose (table sugar), and as such is a complex sugar. It's difficult for yeast to ferment it (honey too). So you want it in there from the beginning when the yeast is healthy and has a chance of fermenting it. I don't see any advantage to waiting to add it but lots of potential disadvantages.
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This gives me a name for a new brew: Hop Goblin. Maybe I need to see what the cyber community could come up with.
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This gives me a name for a new brew: Hop Goblin.
Not to be a party pooper, but I've seen this name used for a commercial brew.

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