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Old 08-17-2010, 04:29 AM   #21
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I'm looking at brewing this but want to do a partial mash instead of AG. How would I convert this? I know that I need to substitute some of the Maris Otter with extract just not sure how much or what kind. Also I prefer DME over LME. Thanks for the help, I'm looking forward to brewing this, have some pecans from my grandparents trees.
You may be able to find Maris Otter extract, but if not, a light extract will do.

You have 2.5 lbs of specialty grains (and pecans) you'll want to mash, so if you can mash a total of 5 lbs, you can do 2.5 lbs of MO and about 3.5 pounds of DME.
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Old 08-17-2010, 04:58 AM   #22
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A bit off topic, but I want to make sure that people reading this understand-

  • I posted this recipe for critique, not as a tried and true recipe.
  • I have only tasted a 1 oz sampler of the actual beer (and I'll be repeating that again this year at GABF), and then brewed this a month later. So I'm not sure how close this is at all.
  • My version was my first AG and really was not a success (terrible efficiency).
  • No one has brewed this and posted back, "Yes, this is an excellent clone, and quite tasty".

I'm not trying to scare anyone away, just wanting people to know this recipe hasn't really been tested. I'm hoping to brew this again this fall, and see how this recipe actually tastes without my brewing mistakes.
Also, I know several people have now brewed this- I'd love to hear what you thought- results & suggested changes. There doesn't seem to be a good clone recipe for this beer out there, so maybe this can be a community effort to nail this thing.
Will this make beer, and probably darn good beer? Yes. Will it make an excellent beer, an exact clone of Lazy Magnolia's Pecan Nut Brown Ale? That's a question without a clear answer... although hopefully we figure it out!
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Old 08-17-2010, 03:13 PM   #23
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http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/oak-...porter-146549/
Here's a thread from Saccharomyces for a recipe he's tried and according to him tastes great.

"The head retention with the nuts in there is probably lower but head be damned. Once you taste this beer, you will not care if it is foamy."

i'm about to try a pecan pie beer myself. while i've never actually drank one it sounds delicious. i recently ground up 24 oz of pecans and they're soaking in a huge amount of jim beam. the pecans soaked up so much bourbon it was rediculious. unfortunately i forgot to roast the pecans before soaking so i'm gonna get an additional 12 oz bag of pecans to roast up and toss into the batch.

my question is should i squeeze all the bourbon out of the pecans or just dump the whole jar of pecans bits and bourbon in the batch? the pecans are ground up pretty fine so i don't want them to get into the bottles. will the pecans float or sink? anyone know?
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Old 08-18-2010, 12:51 AM   #24
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You may be able to find Maris Otter extract, but if not, a light extract will do.

You have 2.5 lbs of specialty grains (and pecans) you'll want to mash, so if you can mash a total of 5 lbs, you can do 2.5 lbs of MO and about 3.5 pounds of DME.
Cool, thanks for the help and the recipe. I'll probably try this next month and will let you know how it turns out. Thanks again.
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Old 08-18-2010, 01:06 AM   #25
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I'm bumping this thread! I already have a porter recipe that I am very happy with but adding pecans sounds phenomenal. I've never had Lazy Magnolia, so I've got nothing to compare it to, but this is definitely going on the upcoming winter brews list! I've never toasted/roasted nuts before, so can anyone give me an idea of temp and for how long?

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Old 08-18-2010, 05:18 AM   #26
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Taken from Chriso's Scottish 80/- Pecan Ale

Pecans were toasted at 300F for 10 minutes in a single layer, then poured into a paper bag to sit out overnight, hopefully getting some of the oils out of them. Pecans were roasted 10 minutes at 400F till slightly smoking. Poured into another paper bag.
Pecans were finally roasted for 10 more minutes at 350F for about 8 minutes, again, just until slightly smoking.
Between each roast, I used a flat-style crowbar and smashed as many whole nuts as I could in order to expose the maximum amount of surface area.
I used this and it worked out pretty well. I didn't have any paper bags so I layered paper towels with the pecans. I was pretty surprised by the amount of oil they soaked from doing this. Now that I think of it though, the pecans were still kind of oily after the 3rd time through the oven....maybe another time through? I dunno.
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Old 08-22-2010, 03:28 AM   #27
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I'm not trying to scare anyone away, just wanting people to know this recipe hasn't really been tested. I'm hoping to brew this again this fall, and see how this recipe actually tastes without my brewing mistakes.
Also, I know several people have now brewed this- I'd love to hear what you thought- results & suggested changes. There doesn't seem to be a good clone recipe for this beer out there, so maybe this can be a community effort to nail this thing.
Will this make beer, and probably darn good beer? Yes. Will it make an excellent beer, an exact clone of Lazy Magnolia's Pecan Nut Brown Ale? That's a question without a clear answer... although hopefully we figure it out!
I didn't really brew your version but from what I did I can draw some conclusions.
I used a little more chocolate malt than yours, I love it and if I make it again I may even up it, but it has more chocolate roasty flavor than lazy magnolias.
I used crystal 40 instead of 60, not sure how this changed much.
I repitched with some extra DME, and mine turned out a lil drier than lazy magnolias.
I mashed with the pecans, and it has great flavor, so I don't know if I would add it to the boil.
The wheat flakes would be good for head retention but I would also recommend the carapils, you are going to have some oil no matter how much you roast the pecans and let them soak in a bag.
I used .5 oz nugget for bittering and 1 0z tettnanger for aroma, and I think my IBUs are great but if mine were a lil sweeter(like the commercial version) I would want a little more hops.
I love mine, it isn't an exact clone and I think jamesnsw might be closer, but it is definitely worth a try
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I want to bump this thread and ask if there's any more updates on this recipe or suggestions for one like it. I want a pecan brown ale, not a pecan porter. I plan on brewing it in a couple weeks (first partial mash) and let it age until Thanksgiving. Thoughts?

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It will probably be Monday before I can get the recipe and post it but I did a pm last year that turned out really good. didn't hace a lazy magnolia to compare it side by side but from memory it wasn't far off.

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I roasted the pecans in 3 stages, putting them in paper bags to help extract the oil each time. I would up the pecans to a lb, maybe lb half since they were there, but not real noticable.

5 lbs 8.0 oz Pale Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 61.52 %
1 lbs 8.0 oz Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 16.78 %
12.0 oz Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 8.39 %
11.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 7.72 %
5.0 oz Wheat, Torrified (1.7 SRM) Grain 3.47 %
3.0 oz Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 2.13 %
0.38 oz Magnum [14.00 %] (30 min) Hops 11.3 IBU
0.38 oz Liberty [4.30 %] (10 min) Hops 1.6 IBU
0.25 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 min) Misc
10.00 oz Pecans (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs SafBrew Ale (DCL Yeast #S-33) Yeast-Ale


Beer Profile
Est Original Gravity: 1.058 SG Measured Original Gravity: 1.054 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.015 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.018 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5.58 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 4.69 %
Bitterness: 12.9 IBU Calories: 244 cal/pint
Est Color: 16.0 SRM Color:
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Mash Profile
Mash Name: Single Infusion, Medium Body, No Mash Out Total Grain Weight: 3.44 lb
Sparge Water: 1.74 gal Grain Temperature: 72.0 F
Sparge Temperature: 168.0 F TunTemperature: 72.0 F
Adjust Temp for Equipment: FALSE Mash PH: 5.4 PH

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